Talk:Search engine submission

Removing this section entirely: Search engine submission no longer necessary

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information is not correct. View is not of proper scope. There are many types of submission types including xml transfers for site maps

tab delimited submission for product feeds, etc. All these things fall into the cat of search engine submission.

--Akc9000 12:17, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Add another view in the same section. What you are saying may be valid, but make sure to cite a source. Jehochman ^Talk 14:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

This section is very misleading and should be removed or rewritten. If anything it is the directory submission that should be avoided, not search engine submission, which is a completely different thing. Submission does not violate webmaster's guidelines as long as it does not involve paid links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.207.54.198 (talk) 09:54, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Many once-small search engines in China and India are getting more and more popular after 2007. For example: Baidu.com (Nasdaq:BIDU) was not well known at the beginning. It is now the most popular search engine in China, while Google is in second place. Without submitting to these search engines via search engine submission software, you may miss millions of visitors who might come to your website via these search engines. The second benefit is that, some search engine submission software not only submit your web site to search engines, but also add links to your web site from their own link pages submitted. This is very helpful in increasing your web site's ranking, because external links are one of the most important factors to a web site's ranking.

It is uncited, reads like advertising for search engine submission services, and baring evidence to the contrary, is likely just as much a scam as submissions to English websites. - SimonP (talk) 19:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Dear SimonP, you probably pay more attention only to the big 3 search engines in US: Google, Yahoo and Bing for your business. However many business and owners love to expand their business worldwide, and they love their sites to be indexed in all the search engines worldwide. The part you deleted about the once-small search engines like Baidu.com is a very good example to show how important to submit to those infamous engines worldwide, as nobody knew Baidu.com before. The Baidu search engine is a well known information (If you don't know that, please see Nasdaq:BIDU), there is no need to cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.141.35.31 (talk) 22:42, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

The problem is the section is false when it says "without submitting to these search engines via search engine submission software, you may miss millions of visitors." Baidu, like every modern search engine, runs a webcrawler that regularly scans the web. This makes manually submitting a site unnecessary. Baidu will find it with no action by the site owner. - SimonP (talk) 21:22, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi SimonP, thank you so much for raising the question. The fact that at the early stage before those worldwide search engines like Baidu get popular, without submitting to them you may miss millions of visitors, is really true. Let me explain to you in details.

Before Baidu going public, nobody knew baidu.com in US while about 1 billion Chinese people were using Baidu to search daily. As you may know, the Asian people and business love to search and buy US products, the keywords are normally like "product name + USA", etc. At that time, Baidu's webcrawler was focusing on Chinese websites rather than English websites in US, except you manually submit your US site via the official submission link Baidu provided: http://zhanzhang.baidu.com/linksubmit/url After submitting to Baidu, your site has almost no competitors, as few Chinese websites contains the keyword "USA".

Baidu is just one example of once-small search engines in China. Actually there are many small search engines worldwide like India, etc, they are getting popular. Submitting to them at the early stage, our business really can take a great deal of advantages from global internet marketing point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.123.128 (talk) 21:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Do you have any evidence that "at that time, Baidu's webcrawler was focusing on Chinese websites rather than English websites." Here is an article from 2010 about Baidu and Yandex aggressively spidering English websites. I can see posts from as early as 2005 about Baidu. In the modern era any major search engine spiders everything. - SimonP (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi SimonP, you may just do a simple test: find a brand new website, and add a link to it from another website which is not so popular. You will find that within even 5 months Baidu.com will not index the brand new website, so you can understand Baidu's webcrawler has been taking less system resources on English websites, even in the modern era right now. The information you referred from is similar to a test report which is not reliable.

However if you manually submit the above brand new site to Baidu via the official submission link below: http://zhanzhang.baidu.com/linksubmit/url The brand new site will be indexed efficiently.

In fact no professionals on this area love to talk and reveal so many secrets like us about the global internet marketing. The information you removed is really very helpful and valuable. Submitting to the search engines worldwide can really benefit the US owners a lot (of course websites also need to be keyword optimized in order to target the keywords like "product name + USA") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.123.128 (talk) 20:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)