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Billboard Hot 100 Peak

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Okay so there seems to be a bit of a debate going on between multiple uninvolved editors, all contributing in good faith as far as I can tell, as to which peak we should use for the original version. Let's establish a few points.

Billboard's rules regarding remixes has all versions of a song count towards one total with the one receiving the majority of the chart points (>50%) being the one credited. During the week dated October 17, 2020, and only the week dated October 17, 2020, this was the BTS remix.
Billboard retroactively credits (or de-credits) remixes, which in my opinion is annoying if the chart hasn't been backed up into the Web Archive as a remix will erroneously appear in weeks prior to it being released if you look on Billboard's site. This isn't as big of an issue here as BTS was only credited one week. Note that this does not mean a remix no longer counts towards the position it just means it's not making up more than 50% of the data.

Which brings us to our current dilemma. Prior to the release of the BTS remix the song had peaked at number seven (seen at https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2020-10-10 the week prior). The week following the release of the remix, which credited the remix, the song rose to number one. The week after, BTS was no longer credited (see https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9468457/24kgoldn-iann-dior-mood-number-one-hot-100) as the remix did not outperform the original. It still counted towards it but was not enough to get credited. However, 6 is still higher than its pre-BTS peak. To make things even more confusing it actually rose to #5 the following week (https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2020-10-31) which as far as I can tell is the highest it peaked before falling back down again. Rose again to 6 on the issue dated the 14th, https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2020-11-14, but still no new peak.

So the question do we put the peak at

7, the highest point it reached prior to the remix
1, the highest point reached overall (albeit the remix was credited that week)
5, the highest point reached without the remix being credited

5 and 1 make the most sense in my opinion but 7 still has a strong case. I'd like to have discussion about this so the peak stays as one position instead of being swapped around every couple of days.

CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 03:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

BTS Canadian Peak

Latest comment: 11 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

As I noted above three years ago, Billboard is finicky with crediting and de-crediting artists when versions change. BTS only charted the week the remix debuted, by that point the remix reached number one in Canada already back in August (which is why the song's entry on BTS' artist page erroneously shows a #1 peak in August--months before the remix existed). For the week dated October 17, 2020--the only week the remix was credited--it held at number two. You can see this on an archived copy of October 17's chart. For reference, here is the week before. No BTS that week, obviously, as that version did not exist yet during that tracking period. By the week following the remix, the remix was no longer accounting for the majority of the activity and was de-credited. Billboard being Billboard this decrediting inadvertently resulted in the credit also being removed from the week it had the credit but that's just a glitch. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 18:21, 2 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

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