Talk:Saint Malachy

surname

Why is St Malachy somethimes given by some the surname O'Morgain. For the O'Murgain surname is given in set of Armagh genealogies. It is the same pedigree as the O'Muireagain (O'Morgan) who seem to have been a powerful church family in north Armagh...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.177.197 (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Gloria Olivae

I'm just wondering exactly how the new Pope would fit with the prophecy.

I read somewhere that the Benedictine order claimed that the Pope would be theirs. Does anyone know what portion of the prophecy backs their claim up?

Benedict XVI

I've read that St. Malachi said the this is the last pope (Benedict XVI - Gloria Olivae). It was the Benedictines that added the additional pope because St Benedict said that at the end of the world their order would be in the papacy.

Perhaps the connection to "The Glory of the Olive" is the fact that he choose the name Benedict.

Follow this; St. Benedict > the Benedictine Order, also known as the Olivetans > Pope Benedict XVI chooses the name of the man who founded the Olivetans > "The Glory of the Olive" thus glorifying St. Benedict the original Olivetan.

Yipes. Where did we get the idea that the Benedictine Order was ever "known as the Olivetans"? The Olivetans are a very small sub-branch of the Benedictine order: while all Olivetans are Benedictines, very few Benedictines are Olivetans. The order, properly the Order of Our Lady of Mount Olivet, is so small that it doesn't appear to have a website; in 1911 the Catholic Encyclopedia [(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11244c.htm s.v. "Olivetans")] reported it was down to 10 monasteries totalling 122 monks. It has never been particularly large or influential. At any rate the so‑called prophecies are such a hash that there's very little point titillating ourselves with how the current pope might be shoe-horned into them.... Bill 11:27, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

We shall see over time.

Needs citation

Most of this is taken directly from the Catholic Encyclopedia on www.newadvent.org.

Canonized by Pope Clement III.. When?

St Malachias canonized by pope CLEMENTE III - July 6, 1199 Pope CLEMENTE III died on March 27 our April 10, 1191. Please, do explain... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.244.181.78 (talk) 19:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Notepad: The Germain version sais: canonized by Clement III in 1190 - possible. The French version sais: canonized by Innocent III in 1199 - possible. Thank you.--85.244.181.78 (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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apocryphal

does apocryphal really mean "of doubtful authenticity"? especially in a religious context? --2607:FEA8:FF01:4B63:6CFD:31B:E9F3:C320 (talk) 12:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC)