Talk:Saint Florian

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Evidence of "so-called" St. Florian Cross

The inclusion of the cross graphic is misleading and gives false implications as to the history of the firefighters cross. Please provide justification that St.Florian had this symbol. To date there is no relationship of St.Florian and this cross, except for this error on this site.Bishopclinics (talk) 17:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Please read about the extensive research efforts already conducted by Don Engebretson (linked from firefighting) and Mica Calfree. Those texts surely will clarify the issue much better than I could with my own words. --Waldir ^talk 19:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Am I missing something? I have discussed this with mica and left messages on the other site. Overall, the only thing that I see them saying is that TODAY they find st. florian on that shape of a cross -- my uncle louie could have designed it last year -- this is not history and it does not relate to st. florian. Show me a historical reference to this cross and st. florian.

If you research st. florian, he has never had this type of a symbol or shape of a cross -- it is only recent merchandising that has sold things by associating the two "after-the-fact". This is not history and we should not imply that the shape depicted has anything to do with the history of st. florian.

Tommorow, if I put st. florian on a firefighters boot, will you include the boot on wikipedia as the symbol of st. florian? Bishopclinics (talk) 20:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Note: I was contacted by email and replied there, unaware that the same message was posted here. I'll reproduce my reply below (edited to include links, and to remove replies to comments that weren't added in the message above but were in the email):

(...) Check the article history, I wasn't the one who added the info to the article, I merely added the image. I am not an authority in the matter and I won't argue that there's historical basis for that assumption. (...) I just wanted give my contribution, because a while ago I had to make a light research on the subject and it was very frustrating to find so many websites repeating the same maltese cross story, until I finally found those links I pointed.
Since they seemed well researched and since the so-called st.florian's cross indeed does look much more like the firefighter's cross than the maltese cross, I though it was a matter of misinfomation, perhaps an urban legend that spread across the web, and since the article on wikipedia already mentioned that, I though I'd help setting the record straight by adding an image.
Now, if you say I'm wrong, that's ok. Remove the info then -- and if you have some info about the *true* origins of the firefighter's cross, then add it!

Regards,
Waldir

--Waldir ^talk 10:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Removed. Hexmaster.se (talk) 12:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

False information removed

The information below was removed since there is no historical evidence that St. Florian ever had such symbolism. Just because St. Florian is a patron saint of firefighters does not enable anyone to invert this association and say that any firefighter symbolism is owned or historically the official symbolism of St. Florian.

The St. Florian's cross

The cross of St. Florian is widely used by fire services to form their emblem.

--Bishopclinics (talk) 04:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Patron of Poland?

Is there any evidence of him being a patron saint of Poland? No such information is present on the Polish version of this page, and he appears nowhere on the Polish wikipedia page listing the patrons of Poland (http://pl.wiki.x.io/wiki/Katoliccy_patroni_Polski - unfortunately no English version of that), so I'm not sure where this comes from. I grew up in Poland and only ever heard of him as a patron of firefighters and related professions... --Weronika 69.181.198.206 (talk) 18:41, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

American diminutive for 'Florian'

In the United States, many men that were baptized 'Florian' at birth preferred to be called 'Floyd'. Musicwriter (talk) 00:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Use for german Fire Departments

This article mentions that "calls for firefighters often are made as Call for Florian" I think that is supposed to mean the radio call signs that are officially reserved for fire departments ... and there it is in all of Germany ONLY the call sign Florian which is used for fire departments (see also here: https://de.wiki.x.io/wiki/Funkrufname#Kennw.C3.B6rter_der_Beh.C3.B6rden_und_Organisationen List in the german Wiki of all official call signs) except in some remnants of 2m wave frequencies where Florentine is used... but as most of the departments have modernized to digital CB... Florian is the official call sign for them. --5.146.47.75 (talk) 01:53, 26 July 2017 (UTC)