Talk:Said bin Taimur

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can anyone provide more information about Sultan Said? One of the most mysterious man in history of that region.

"run at Said's whim."?

I'm sorry, but I think this does not do the man justice: "Despite the wealth that Oman accumulated through its vast petroleum reserves, the Sultan refused to use this money for the benefit of his subjects, and the country essentially remained a feudal monarchy, run at Said's whim."

• 1. I do not believe the Omani petroleum reserves were ever 'vast'. Modest to moderate would be more accurate.
• 2. I also do not believe Oman was run at his 'whim'. It implies that he did as he pleased at random. The author fails to take into account the 'type of Oman' that Said inherited, namely a country in debt which could not make ends meet. Because of this, indeed, he did not spend much and certainly not on his subjects, because his main concern was keeping his country 'in the black'. There simply was no money to be spent.
• 3. Which brings me to my third point. In addition to the supposed 'vast' reserves, which I believe to be untrue, wealth had not been accumulated until very, very late in Said's reign. Serious oil drilling did not occur in Oman until the mid to late 60s, just a few years before his reign ended. The author makes it seem as if Said had all this wealth for decades and just sat on it.

I do however agree, that in that short time that he did have wealth, he did not spend it. Again, looking at him simply as an invidiual who starts his 'career' in debt, it is plausible that this would mark a person and make one cautious in spending.

So, I believe that section should be nuanced a bit, taking a broader perspective of the economical context of 1930s Oman and Said as a person.

(I'm afraid I don't have any sources to quote for you, but if I'm in the library again I'll give you the names of some books. I'm not planning to edit the article, I only edit discussion pages, thanks, Vince (talk) 09:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC))

And, I think there is also room to doubt wether Qaboos staged a coup, as is claimed. There are eye witness accounts from that era, which suggest that Qaboos was merely a participant in the coup, not the instigator, and that in fact it was a British Army Major who helped put Qaboos on the throne. Again, that's just another claim, but just as unfounded as the entirety of the current article. If noone re-writes the article soon, I'll scrap all unverified information and stick purely to objective facts. Vince (talk) 00:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Oil was NOT exported untill 1967 so vast wealth simply was not there. Current exports are 10% of Saudi Arabia and GDP a fraction of Kuwait etc . The page is somewhat poor with facts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.178.150.132 (talk) 12:47, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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Date of death

If Said bin Taimur was exiled in 1970, and lived two years after, how did he die in 1970, as well? Time machine? --Agamemnus (talk) 07:36, 5 April 2015 (UTC)