Talk:Sadak 2

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2020

Upcoming Movie Latestashu (talk) 19:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Disliked Trailer

It should be added that Sadak 2’s trailer is one of the most disliked videos in history. Iknowthingsaboutstuff1 (talk) 15:43, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Iknowthingsaboutstuff1: How does one objectively quantify "most disliked"? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:28, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

What do you mean? Iknowthingsaboutstuff1 (talk) 18:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2020

Add to release section: "The overall reception to the release of the movie has not been positive. The trailer has received 3.9 million+ dislikes, making it the most disliked video on YouTube." Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iot0eF6EoNA&lc=z23od1kwbpbkutpz004t1aokguxx5c1khqss3w53e4kfbk0h00410 https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/sadak-2-gets-95-downvotes-and-is-now-most-disliked-video-on-youtube-beats-pewdiepie-and-despacito-2781023.html 76.105.43.56 (talk) 18:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Lacks sufficient context. Proposed content makes it sound like this is critical response, which it is not, and there appears to be some external politics at work, i.e. people responding negatively to Sushant Rajput's death and thumbing down the film to boycott "star kids". There might be a way to properly present this information, but I'm not sure what that is yet. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:38, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2020

I want to change the figure of dislikes in the reception category. Now, its over 5 Million dislikes till 13-08-2020 10.30am Wertiro (talk) 04:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now. Please provide Wikipedia:Reliable sources (at least one) to support the number you report. NedFausa (talk) 05:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Sushant' death

I think suicide should get replaced with mysterious death. Since it is yet to be confirmed that it was a suicide or planned murder. Line - *sparked after the suicide of popular Indian actor Sushant Singh Rajput* Sonalmehta123456789 (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

You should probably read news articles. Three medical examiners called it a "clear case of suicide", and two more examiners signed off on that determination along with the other three.[1][2][3][4] There are no reports that these examiners called it a "mysterious death". What conspiracy theorist fans speculate is of no concern. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:07, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Sonalmehta123456789 Kindly note Sushant's parent have also filed case on Abetment to Suicide and not yet murder so we should not add opinion [WP:POV]. As Supreme Court has transferred the case to CBI from Mumbai Police as there was only inquest so we can add "controversial death" as investigation was not yet started by Mumbai Police since no FIR was lodged. This is mentioned in judgement available to be downloaded from Supreme Court of India website. Everyone wants justice but Wikipedia is nota place to publish opinion or conjectures. If you want anything specific then download the SC verdict and quote here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.169.63 (talk) 18:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Analysis sentence with cited source

Since the trailer became the third most-disliked YouTube video yesterday, can I re-add back the analysis sentence "As of 16 August 2020, the trailer is the third most-disliked video on YouTube, with over 10 dislikes." in "Reception" with a cited source? I believe this from mid-day.com and this from Gulf Today are the cited sources for the number of dislikes in its trailer video; as the video became the third on YouTube to surpass 10 million dislikes. --Allen ^{(talk / ctrb)} 16:44, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring over composer credit

Ekucha belrima has repeatedly edit warred to restore an unsourced claim that the composers of "Dil Ki Purani Sadak" were assisted by Keshav Tyohar. Here are diffs of edit warring by @Ekucha belrima:

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Note that Ekucha belrima most recently edit warred more than an hour after being warned by Hammersoft.

This could easily be resolved if Ekucha belrima would cite WP:RS to support Keshav Tyohar's assistance. NedFausa (talk) 21:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@NedFausa: There's a bit more to this. Ekucha belrima appears to be an SPA and has used multiple accounts to engage in promotion of this dubiously notable subject. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@NedFausa, Hammersoft, and Sush150: With the help of NinjaRobotPirate, four accounts have been blocked as a result of this. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ekucha belrima. Per WP:3RRNO, we can now revert these Keshav Tyohar additions if we believe that they are coming from Ekucha belrima evading their blocks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:42, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2020

Taran Adarsh gave the movie 1 star saying "Just cannot be compared to its first part... Lacklustre plot... Lethargic and lifeless screenwriting... Music doesn’t work either... Terrible waste of the brand Sadak and talent associated with this film" WikiPage27 (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 20:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Unclear content

@User1257: Hi there, re: this edit, I'm curious if you didn't notice the giant cleanup template at the top of that section? The slash content you added, "Aarya Desai/Misha Verma" and "Vishal Thakur/Munna Chauhan" is totally ambiguous. The point of an encyclopedia is to communicate information to people who are unfamiliar with the film, and there's no clear way to interpret why there are two sets of character names here. The section previously indicated that these were dual roles, you say that they're not dual roles, but then what is a person unfamiliar with the film supposed to understand these to mean? Are these nicknames? Do people discover past identities? Do you see the issue here? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:29, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Both Alia Bhatt and Aditya Roy Kapur have been called by other characters with two different names. They were not playing dual roles. User1257 (talk) 20:26, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@User1257: That doesn't help to resolve the issue, which is that names divided by slashes are ambiguous and confusing and don't communicate to readers why there are extra names. I haven't seen the movie, so I can't provide any of this clarity to readers. What are the circumstances surrounding the use of multiple names? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:29, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

IMDb

@Grettoonist: This content contravenes MOS:FILM, which says explicitly, Do not include user ratings submitted to websites such as the Internet Movie Database, Metacritic, or Rotten Tomatoes, as they are vulnerable to vote stacking and demographic skew. So if you want this content in, you need to establish a local consensus for why it should be here, since the film editing community decided a long time ago that this should be omitted. A bunch of pissy internet cranks who are actively downvoting a movie for political reasons (#justiceforSSR) shouldn't be given undue weight, which is what your restoration of this content does. And with the taint of this being politically motivated, it's virtually impossible to distinguish between legitimate criticism of the film's quality, and criticism due to vote brigading. "I believe that it's worth noting that the film received the lowest rating ever on IMDb since it's a contributor to the critics and audience reception of the film." IMDb ratings have nothing to do with film critics' reviews. These are entirely votes by members of IMDb. So maybe you want to rephrase your argument, especially in light of the new information you have on how the community doesn't agree with you? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Hello Cyphoidbomb,

Thank you for this post, you are correct in that the mention of IMDb should not be in the "Critical response" section. I do still believe that the information related to the film becoming the lowest rated film of all time is valid, but it's in an inappropriate place and should be moved somewhere more suitable where you can distinguish it from critical reception. I have decided to move it to the "Vote brigading" article as a result, since this film was rated so low for the same reason the trailer amassed so many dislikes. However, I have also considered if we should include it in this article, except in the "Production" section where the trailer reception is already mentioned, and transform that subsection from "Trailer release and reception" to a more general topic like "Vote brigading incident". That way, viewers can easily tell the difference between the controversy and reception from professional critics. I don't take these vote brigadiers seriously any more than you or the film community does, I do think that the overwhelming reception from people the film got shouldn't be forgotten, in spite of how unprofessional it was of them. What are your thoughts on the second idea? If you approve of it, I can make a simplified version for that section.

Yours, Grettoonist/Wikipedia Historian (talk) 07:54, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Grettoonist: Hi there, I'd be less inclined to oppose the content if it were in a section that didn't legitimise it as actual audience criticism. So if it's not in the lede or in the critical response section, but in a more intuitive spot like what you've described by changing section heading names. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:58, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2020

79.70.174.163 (talk) 13:16, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

so bascilly this movie got a lot of dislikes from the trailer as people are still talking about srs and most people are just like watching to dislike it i looked and the reviews and it had a lot of bad reviews for it and alot of people put like jsut oh so bad only here for aditya and how they are star kids and that bollywood is full of nepotism and how they should give others a chance

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - Flori4nK ^{t • c} 14:06, 5 September 2020 (UTC)