Talk:SMS Grosser Kurfürst (1913)

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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 24, 2010.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the German battleship SMS Grosser Kurfürst was involved in a series of accidents during her service career, including collisions and several groundings?
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Title "ss" and "ß"

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Hi! The German wikipedia has this article under "SMS Großer Kurfürst" which would definitely be the modern German orthography. Of course, the letter "ß" ist not usual in English but, well, it seems that ship wasn't called "Grosser Kurfürst" but "Großer Kurfürst" which makes a difference not only in orthography but also in pronunciation (at least from a modern German point of view). Maybe one should consider moving the article while keeping a redirect under its current title. Greetings. --EBB (talk) 09:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

The ship is usually rendered in English as with the double s, not the eszett (though with the umlaut on the "u"). We follow English usage on special characters, hence no eszett. Parsecboy (talk) 12:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
According to whom is it rendered with double s? it is a proper name, and even in modern German proper names still use the ß and not ss. This is not an anglicised version of a German city like Cologne, it is the name of a Ship. It should be written with the ß as it historically was.76.10.187.28 (talk) 06:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
As I said eight years ago, look at any number of books published in English. They do not use the eszett, with very few exceptions. Parsecboy (talk) 09:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
As also said years ago: ship names on the ships are in all upper case, and there's no upper case "ß" which is probably the reason for the English usage. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Those ships didn't have their name on the ship, so there is no official upper case name, and the reason why some English books didn't use the ß probably was because they could not print it. Wikipedia can print the ß and since it is a proper name it should do so. --84.62.85.136 (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
For the third time:
Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

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This revision seems to be in British English. Was it changed? --MarchOrDie (talk) 00:54, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Yes, from AmEng in 2005. I changed it back when I wrote the article. Parsecboy (talk) 10:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

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SMS Grosser Kurfürst?

This (right) is the lead image in the article on the German Wikipedia. It appears to be a photograph of this battleship. Is that right? Perhaps we could use it instead of the current lead image here, which appears to be a drawing of a different vessel, SMS König, in the same class? 213.205.198.188 (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

That photo has no source or valid copyright status, so no. Parsecboy (talk) 21:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Oh, and it's almost certainly the same photo as this one, which the IWM labels as SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm, not Grosser Kurfürst. I suspect the uploader on de.wiki is confused. Parsecboy (talk) 11:39, 6 May 2019 (UTC)Reply