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Latest comment: 18 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
The assertion that Lowe will be ennobled for 'services to sport' is absolute tosh, and suggests that the writer has no knowledge of the process, nob. Although in theory anyone can nominate, and anyone can be ennobled, the actualié is rather more secretive. Most nominations come from within the ruling Establishment, and all are minutely scrutinised and vetted by committees of civil servants in Whitehall. Any nomination that appears to originate from a public campaign on behalf of any person, nominated or not, will be almost certain to be rejected. Advance disclosure of an 'about-to-recieve-a-peerage' nature, whether by the recipient or supporters, would certainly ensure that an award be quietly cancelled.
By the very nature of how these things are decided in secretive committees, not open to any form of democratic scutiny, no one who is not actually present at these deliberations will ever know. So any claim to a special knowledge or insight that the rest of us are not privy to is by its very nature, unprovable, and not in the Wikipedia style of openness and verifiable. Or to put it in street language; fantasy.
And to silence those who infer partisanship on this writers part, ... I support neither side in this turf war, neither Lowe nor his detractors, although some of both are friends and neighbours. I do not support Southampton Football Club, or any other; nor have I attended a football match in thirty years; although I live within sight and earshot of St Mary's stadium. Its only a game where grown men kick around a leather ball. Its not a matter of life or death, despite what Bill Shankly said in one moment of madness.Brian.Burnell11:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 4 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
The great bulk of this article relates to a period 20 or so years ago when its subject was head of a football club. This has little relevance to his current career as a member of parliament. The football club material needs editing down a lot and/or moving into a page about the history of the football club, and, ideally, more material on the subject's political (and perhaps business) career added to allow the public to be informed about an elected representative. To my mind this is an example of Wikipedia over-emphasising (male) sport and under-emphasising more important, less ephemeral matters. 195.213.161.3 (talk) 06:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
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