Talk:Roman Catholic Suburbicarian Diocese of Frascati

Diocese of Choice

The article states, "Like other dioceses close to Rome, Frascati became a bishopric of choice for Cardinals of powerful papal families during the 17th century; a period known for its unabashed nepotism." This is incorrect. Promotion to the cardinal bishoprics from Cardinal-priest was by seniority; when a vacancy occurred in a bishopric, the Cardinal priests were asked in order of seniority whether they wanted the promotion (Many did, some did not). In moving up among the suburbicarian bishoprics, it was strictly a matter of seniority (though, again, one could refuse promotion). The small number of examples, cherry picked from several papal families, and including a couple of hangers-on, is put forth in the article without argumentation to demonstrate the assertion. The entire section is unreferenced. It is ripe for deletion. --Vicedomino (talk) 04:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

These rules were made clear by Pope Paul IV in his Bull Cum venerabiles, 22 August 1555. Bullarum diplomatum et privilegiorum sanctorum Romanorum pontificum Taurensis editio (in Latin). Vol. Tomus VI. Turin: Seb. Franco. 1860. pp. 502–504. --Vicedomino (talk) 18:35, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Classification

An article about the diocese which contains no history at all of the diocese is not much of an article. A list of bishops, however complete, is no substitute for a history of the diocese. Did the bishop have a palace? Did he have a high income, or was he scraping by? Was he resident, or did he spend all his time at the Papal Court? Did the Cathedral have a clerical staff? Did the diocese have a seminary, an orphanage, a college, a poor house? Did the Bishop run the territory of Frascati, or was there a governor? Was there a territorial nobility who helped/hindered the bishop's work? Sorry, but the present article is no "C". It's barely a "Start". --Vicedomino (talk) 04:58, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Roman Catholic Suburbicarian Diocese of Frascati

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Roman Catholic Suburbicarian Diocese of Frascati's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "fiu.edu":

• From Suburbicarian Diocese of Velletri-Segni: The Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church - Papal elections and conclaves by century
• From Roman Catholic Suburbicarian Diocese of Palestrina: The Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church - Creations of Cardinals of the XI Century
• From Suburbicarian Diocese of Porto e Santa Rufina: The Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church - Creations of Cardinals of the 9th Century

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 12:39, 4 October 2017 (UTC)