Talk:Rockstar North/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: IceWelder (talk · contribs) 22:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Vacant0 (talk · contribs) 10:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article as part of the ongoing GAN backlog drive. --Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Initial comments

• There is unlikely any copyright violation in the article. Earwig's Copyvio Detector has reported only 10.7% in similarity.
• There are no cleanup banners, such as those listed at WP:QF, in the article.
• The article is stable.
• No previous GA reviews.

General comments

• Prose, spelling, and grammar checking.
  • "During his studies, he had developed..." – remove had
    • I believe this is correct since his studies and the signing with Psygnosis principally occurred before he formed the company in 1988. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...including Mike Dailly, Steve Hammond, and Russell Kay, who he had met..." – change "who" to "whom"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...the Dundee native David Jones..." – remove the
    • Hmm, that would make it a false title, which are not so hot right now. I'd rather avoid it. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...which had boosted interest for hobbyist programming..." – change "for" to "in"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "The quartet bonded over their shared interested in creating games..." – change "interested" to "interest"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "In search for a company name..." → "In his search for a company name"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "Menace was released in October 1988 after 18 months in development" – change "in development" to "of development"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...label for budget-price games" → "label for budget-priced games"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "Hammond joined second on a part-time time basis..." – I think the second time is unnecessary
    • This explicitly refers to Hammond being the second employee. The order of the rest is not given in the sources, unfortunately. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Considering that the article is written in British English, change "disks" to "discs"
    • Oh wow, I never knew this was a British vs. American thing. I always assumed "disks" referred to any kind of disk storage media and "discs" were compact discs specifically. I changed to "covermount" for simplicity, but I learned something new today! IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "In mid- to late 1996..." → "In mid-to-late 1996"
    • I was wondering what was correct when I wrote this originally. Online references give very different answers ([1][2][3][4]). I chose to just rephrase this and avoid the trouble. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...the studio's manager and it had..." → "the studio's manager, and it had"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "The development on Body Harvest continued torn between..." → "The development of Body Harvest continued to be torn between"
    • Rephrased since the differing requirements were not mentioned before. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...(since called the University of Abertay Dundee)..." → "(now called the University of Abertay Dundee)"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...the exclusive rights to the game worldwide" – remove the first the
    • I thought the "the" implies that it is one singular set of exclusive rights, as opposed to just one of several (e.g. per platform). English isn't my first language, so I may be mistaken here. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "House, alongside some of his former..." – replace "alongside" with "along with"
    • Rephrased to avoid "alongside", though I'm not a big fan of "along with" since the "along" feels like a redundancy. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "its internal studio Rockstar Canada to develop" → "its internal studio, Rockstar Canada, to develop"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...before its expanding scope led it to being considered" – replace "being" with "be"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "Rockstar North assisted Rockstar Vienna and later Rockstar London in the produced of a sequel..." – replace "produced" with "production"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "One half of the studio each worked..." – remove each
    • I meant to express that one half worked on one project and one on the other, not that one half made both. I rephrased this a bit for clarity. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • "...the listing removed from..." → "the listing was removed from"
    •  Fixed. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Checking whether the article complies with MOS.
  • Optional: Add alt texts to the images in the article.
    • I will probably do this just before taking it to FAC. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • The article complies with the MOS:LEDE, MOS:LAYOUT, and MOS:WTW guidelines. There is no fiction and embedded lists within the article, so I am skipping MOS:WAF and MOS:EMBED.
• Checking refs, verifiability, and whether there is original research.
  • References section with a {{reflist}} template is present in the article.
  • No referencing issues.
  • Reliability:
    • I doubt that we could use that YouTube reference. Are there any other references that could potentially back up those two sentences?
      • All information taken from that reference comes directly from Rockstar North's Brian Baglow, so it should be treated as a primary source in my opinion. None of the additional reporting from the uploading channel is used. I think it was a pretty cool find to give closure around the "Broadband Studios" topic, but I could phrase around the source if you think it must go. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Other references are reliable.
  • Former names (in the infobox) are unsourced.
    • All important renames are stated verbatim in the body, I think. IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Spotchecked Ref 5, 6, 8, 9, 13, 14, 29, 31, 34, 39, 45, 49, 50, 51, 61, 71, 86, 106, 121, 124, 142–all verify the cited content. AGF on other citations.
  • Copyvio already checked.
• Checking whether the article is broad in its coverage.
  • The article is very detailed. Good job!
  • The article addresses the main aspects, and it stays focused on the topic.
• Checking whether the article is presented from an NPOV standpoint.
  • The article meets the criteria and is written in encyclopedic language.
• Checking whether the article is stable.
  • As noted in the initial comments, the article has been stable.
• Checking images.
  • Images are all properly licensed, including the YouTube video under a CC licence.

Final comments

@IceWelder: There's not too much to fix. Once these issues get addressed, I'll promote the article to GA status. The review will be on hold for a week until then. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Vacant0: Thank you for taking this on, especially considering the article's length! I made a couple adjustments and left additional replies above. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 12:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Everything looks good now to me. I'll promote the article. I'll jump in and leave some comments when you start the FAC nomination. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.