Talk:Robert W. Malone

Latest comment: 2 days ago by Tgeorgescu in topic Misinformation about misinformation



An opinion presented as fact

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In the opening paragraph several sources are quoted and their claims (now known to be false) are presented as facts: "During the COVID-19 pandemic, Malone promoted misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines." His information was in fact accurate, he is in fact one of the inventors of the mRNA vaccine technology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JanBielawski (talkcontribs) 15:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

See talk page archive for every answer to this. Slatersteven (talk) 16:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Spot on! 194.24.8.66 (talk) 13:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
The guy who invented mRNA vaccines was spreading vaccine misinformation. It's misinformation because some nobody writing for The Atlantic said so. 2600:6C5D:40F0:71E0:390B:C356:B44:5C4 (talk) 19:17, 21 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
You do need to check other sources though! ShowierData9978 (talk) 19:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
And read the article. Slatersteven (talk) 08:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Dr. Malone did NOT spread false information during COVID. Those who say otherwise are the ones spreading disinformation. See the documentary film, "Thank You, Dr. Fauci", available on different platforms, if you care to know the truth. Wikipedia is not a credible source for truth. 50.102.198.252 (talk) 11:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Your opinion about what is true does not matter. Wikipedia will continue to follow reliable sources. --Hob Gadling (talk) 12:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's precisely the problem. What truth is based on. For Wikipedia, presenting as truth, what is based on what they call "reliable sources", is the chosen option. It works well as long the so called "reliable sources" haven't engaged into a propaganda war against even common sense. As a result, mechanically, that propaganda is landing into Wikipedia.
Making Wikipedia admins to consider that it can be problematic is pretty difficult, even impossible. Because they see as source of truth what they call reliable (falling on the initial bias mentioned), and not as a source of propaganda, indeed. So it falls on deaf ears.
But now it has become so rotten with that, not only for Dr. Malone. All of those who haven't complied with "The ministry of Truth" are labelled "conspiracy theorist", and it stays, even if what they said was indeed true, as we know now.
So let's make things clear, once for all: Wikipedia is not an Encyclopedia, but a political propaganda tool, where the most conformist editing participants are promoted admins, so that they can block anyone not sharing their vue. The result is that disaster. 2A0D:3344:23E3:7A10:E21B:8CF2:8ED3:29A6 (talk) 09:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
This page is about improving the article Robert W. Malone, following the current Wikipedia rules. If you do not like those rules, go to Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources. But there, like here, you will need valid reasoning instead of just your opinion. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:05, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia co-founder agrees with me: see https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1873992969378029874
It is not an opinion, it is a statement of the current situation based on facts.
For my concern, and for many, we stop to donate, until a massive cleanup is done. As it seems that at the end of the day, with all the bad faith we saw, that's the only things people like you will understand. 2A0D:3344:2362:4710:4237:CDF5:2CB0:2E32 (talk) 10:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
SOAPBOX nonsense. Koncorde (talk) 17:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia co-founder agrees with me That is actúally more of a reason not to do what you want. His non-Wikipedia encyclopedia projects all failed. Stop misusing this page as a forum. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Reference 20

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Reference 20 is a dead link. Rfjk (talk) 10:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Internet Archive is down, temporarily. Bon courage (talk) 11:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2024

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Change "Malone promoted misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines." to "Malone was accused of promoting misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines."

As no-one can perfectly arbitrate what is misinformation and what is not it's disingenuous to say definitively that he promoted misinformation as we can't know for sure what is misinformation and what is not. Doogiej7 (talk) 10:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Well yes we can, as a lie is a lie, did the Pfizer–BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines worsen COVID-19 infections? Was the Chairman of the Thomson Reuters Foundation was a board member at Pfizer? Slatersteven (talk) 10:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

This article is biased trash controlled by the same usual wikipedia power users

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A phrase such as "promoted misinformation" is completely unencyclopedic, and there is an established routine of maintaining such terms on wikipedia by power users such as Slatersteven, through endless reverting of edits. Many comments on this talk page have been reverted by power users, making it seem like there is less dissent to this practice. These are nebulous, in vogue terms, intended to savage a reputation. You ought to use a neutral tone, and this is not a neutral tone. Countlessly many comments mention that this language is inappropriate, yet it endures somehow due to power-users endlessly reverting edits on the article due to the padlock it, which is to prevent...vandalism? The power-users are in fact behaving as vandals. 60.240.156.235 (talk) 13:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

We go by what RS say. Slatersteven (talk) 14:02, 28 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Misinformation about misinformation

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I just t all respect for this forum. To see that writers labeled Dr Malone’s info as misinformation is horrendous. With all we know now and the health implications of the COVID vaxx - surely they could reference studies that verify what Dr Malone has reported. Come on now - he developed the MRNA methodology. To those who choose to follow the lies - you are free to do so. But my money is on the truth. And the truth will never be a threat to me. 2601:5C8:C201:EDC0:A0E2:1F5F:DBBD:3A25 (talk) 02:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

We don't deny positive contributions to mainstream science. But the medical consensus is that he spreads misinformation. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply