Talk:Rey (Star Wars)

Great grandmother

There was none, please remove. Dathan was a failed strandcast that escaped Exogol. 73.47.48.81 (talk) 18:54, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

New leading image

Hi folks! I'm wondering if you would support changing the leading image on this page. The current (non-free) image is a screenshot from a film, and it is out of focus. I think we should find another non-free image that is in focus. Please see these other pages for examples of higher-quality images.

I would suggest we use this Rey image:

Image removed due to WP:COPYLINK concerns

Wafflewombat (talk) 08:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the proposed image would be suitable unless it was released directly from Lucasfilm/Disney. I'm not opposed to changing the image, but I would much rather prefer the new image to be from official material rather than an edited wallpaper with unclear and potentially sketchy copyright status. Rey's official Star Wars Databank entry has several high quality images, of which I believe this one would be the most suitable for this article. Keep in mind the policy on non-free content, and that non-free images are almost always rescaled to a lower resolution. - ZLEA _T\^C 07:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. What do you think of this image? It appears to be a Disney image. I also found a different version of the other image I suggested, but I don't know how to tell where it was sourced from. Wafflewombat (talk) 09:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Update: I'm copying a thread from the Teahouse, since it's regarding this discussion.
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Hello! I'm wondering if someone can give me some hands-on help with uploading a new non-free image. I'm hoping to replace the leading (non-free) image on this page with a new one. I've consulted how-to WP pages about images but I'm still a bit bewildered. I was hoping someone could walk me through the process so I don't mess it up and get my image removed due to copyright issues. Thanks! Wafflewombat (talk) 03:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

@Wafflewombat see Wikipedia:File upload wizard. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

The trick in this case would be to figure out where the image actually came from originally. Based on the image link you have provided at Talk:Rey (Star Wars), this may be difficult to do – the creator of the desktop background is certainly not the owner of the copyright in this case. If you can find the original source it should be no problem. Otherwise, you might want to see if you can find an image published specifically as promotional material or that is a screenshot from the film, both of which are fairly easy to label properly licensing wise. Tollens (talk) 03:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Wafflewombat. Uploading the image is only one of the issues involved with something like this. Uploading a file is a farily straightforward process, but uploading a file doesn't automatically mean that it'll end up being used. Since non-free files can only be used in the article namespace per Wikipedia's non-free content use criterion #9 and almost any image you'll be able to find or create of the character Rey is going to need to be treated as non-free content, I strongly suggest that you don't upload any file until you've established a clear consensus to replace the current image being used in the article's main infobox. Wikipedia encourages use to be WP:BOLD whenever possible, but also advises us to be WP:CAUTIOUS whenever necessary. I think this is one of those cases where you probably should be cautious.

FWIW, the infobox image for a fictional character article can be a contentious subject with different users have different ideas as to what image should be used. So, there's a good chance that you boldly replacing the current image with a different one might be reverted (perhaps rather quickly) by someone who disagrees. If that happens, then the image you uploaded will become orphaned non-free use and eligible for speedy deletion per speedy deletion criterion F5. Even if the image you prefer isn't immediately reverted, the image it replaces will itself become orphaned and eligible for speedy deletion per F5. So, either way one of the two images is going to end up deleted, which is probably why it'ss better to establish a consensus as to whether which one that should be before replacing anything.

Finally, you might think it's OK to upload the other images just for comparison purposes, but this would still be a violation of criterion #9 since non-free content isn't allowed to be displayed on talk pages (see WP:TPG#Non-free images for details). So, even for comparision purposes, you should wait until a consensus has been established to replace the current images before uploading any new ones. If you want to link to a different image on an external website so that others can see what it looks like, you can do that as long as WP:COPYLINK isn't a problem. So, you should look for official Star Wars or perhaps official news websites where it's almost certain that the image has been posted with copyright holder consent. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

PS: I see you did post something at Talk:Rey (Star Wars)#New leading image and nobody has responded so far. You might want to try posting a {{Please see}} template at WT:STARWARS to see if any members of that WikiProject respond. If nobody still responds after about another week, then it's probably OK to be BOLD; however, if the change is reverted, you're back at square one and need to then establish a consenus in favor of changing the image through talk page discussion.-- Marchjuly (talk) 04:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I have done as you suggested and reached out to the Star Wars Wikiproject. I'll give it a week before doing anything else. Wafflewombat (talk) 05:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Marchjuly, I have a question. Can I take a screenshot from a film myself and upload it? Wafflewombat (talk)

Name Change

Shouldn't this page be titled "Rey Skywalker"? 2603:300C:1305:F800:1557:DE44:3B:7DD9 (talk) 16:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

My understanding is that character pages use the name that is most commonly used in media relating to the character. Rey is referred to as "Rey" far more often than she is referred to as "Rey Skywalker". Also, as far as I know "Rey Skywalker" is not her legal name, if such a thing even exists in the Star Wars galaxy 😀 Wafflewombat (talk) 18:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)