Talk:Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan

Latest comment: 56 minutes ago by McKhan in topic Support Speedy Deletion:

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I respectfully contest the proposed speedy deletion of the page on Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan because the subject satisfies the notability guidelines for public figures as established in Wikipedia’s policies. Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan’s significant achievements and contributions meet the standards for inclusion due to the following reasons:
  • 1. Diplomatic and Public Service Career: Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan has served as the Consul General of Kazakhstan, a high-ranking diplomatic position that demonstrates national-level significance. Diplomats of this stature are notable under Wikipedia’s guidelines for public figures.
  • 2. Credible Sources and Verifiability: The page includes verifiable information about Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan’s career and contributions to diplomacy. Independent and reliable sources have been used to substantiate the claims in the article, and more citations can be added if required.
  • 3. Family and Historical Importance: Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan is part of a prominent political family in Pakistan, known for its substantial contributions to politics, military service, and governance. This context adds to his significance in the socio-political landscape of the country.
  • 4. Precedent: Other diplomats and public servants of similar standing have well-documented entries on Wikipedia. Deleting this page would set an inconsistent precedent when compared to existing articles about diplomats of equal or lesser prominence.
I am happy to revise and improve the page further by adding additional references, addressing any concerns regarding neutrality, or enhancing the structure to comply fully with Wikipedia’s standards. I believe that deleting this page would prevent recognition of an individual whose work has had a meaningful impact at both national and international levels.
Thank you for your consideration. Dellhp25 (talk) 02:48, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support Speedy Deletion:

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@Sahaib, Whpq, and CycloneYoris:

  • Diplomatic and Public Service Career:
The claim that Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan’s role as Honorary Consul General of Kazakhstan is equivalent to a "high-ranking diplomatic position" is misleading. Honorary consuls typically hold ceremonial and voluntary positions that do not carry the same weight as career diplomats or ambassadors. They primarily focus on fostering economic or cultural ties, often part-time, and are not directly involved in state affairs.
The article incorrectly states that Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan reports to the Prime Minister of Pakistan and is appointed by the President. This is factually incorrect. Honorary consuls are appointed by the foreign government they represent (Kazakhstan in this case), not by the host nation. This misrepresentation creates a false image of his role and inflates his significance.
Such inaccuracies violate Neutral Point of View (NPOV), which requires Wikipedia articles to reflect facts without exaggeration or bias. Additionally, Wikipedia’s guidelines for public figures (Diplomat Notability) indicate that notability typically applies to ambassadors and ministers, not honorary appointees with limited diplomatic functions.
  • Sources and Verifiability:
A major concern with the article is the lack of substantial, independent sources. Currently, the article relies on just three sources, and one of them leads nowhere or is inaccessible. This lack of solid, independent references undermines the credibility of the article. Even if the content is factual, Wikipedia requires significant, third-party coverage from reliable sources to establish notability.
This falls short of the standard set by Verifiability (V), which mandates that all material be backed by reliable, published sources that readers can independently verify. A few scattered mentions in local news outlets or self-published materials are not enough to justify an article. Notability requires consistent, in-depth coverage by reputable publications – something this article currently lacks.
If the available information comes primarily from press releases, personal connections, or minor local publications, it does not satisfy General Notability Guideline (GNG), which is the fundamental threshold for inclusion.
  • Promotional Tone and Embellishment:
The article reads more like a promotional piece than an objective biography. It highlights achievements in a way that appears exaggerated or self-congratulatory. Descriptions of diplomatic contributions and political activities lack critical perspective or independent evaluation, suggesting the article may have been written to enhance Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan’s public image.
Additionally, the article embellishes his political career by emphasizing that he contested elections for the National and Provincial Assemblies of Pakistan. However, contesting an election without winning or holding office does not establish notability. Many individuals run for public office without significant recognition or influence, and this alone does not justify a Wikipedia page.
Wikipedia explicitly discourages such content under Promotion (PROMO) and Avoid Puffery (PEACOCK). Biographies must stick to neutral, verifiable facts without unnecessary embellishments or promotional language.
  • Family and Historical Importance:
One of the arguments against deletion is that Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan comes from a prominent political family with deep roots in governance and public service. However, Wikipedia is clear that notability cannot be inherited. Just because family members hold important positions does not automatically make someone notable. The individual must stand on their own merits and receive significant independent coverage to qualify for inclusion.
This argument is addressed by Inherited Notability (NOTINHERITED), which explicitly states that family connections do not equate to notability. Furthermore, simply being related to notable figures does not justify a standalone article under Biographies of Living Persons (BIO).
  • Precedent and Comparison to Other Articles:
The defense mentions that similar figures have Wikipedia pages, suggesting that deleting this article creates inconsistency. However, the existence of other articles does not justify keeping one that fails to meet Wikipedia’s guidelines.
This is a common argument, but it directly contradicts Other Stuff Exists (OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). Each article must independently meet notability requirements. If similar pages exist and fail to meet standards, they should also be considered for deletion, rather than being used as justification for retaining this one.
  • Offer to Improve the Article:
The article creator offers to revise and improve the page to address concerns. While good faith improvements are encouraged, no amount of editing can overcome the fundamental lack of notability. Wikipedia’s policy on notability (Nonexistent or Future Events (NEXIST)) makes it clear that potential improvements do not justify keeping an article if the subject doesn’t meet existing notability standards.
If the subject’s achievements have not yet been independently recognized to a significant degree, the article should not exist on Wikipedia. If, in the future, more substantial coverage emerges, the article can always be recreated.
Conclusion:
The article on Rao Khalid Mustafa Khan contains factual errors, promotional language, and unverifiable claims that conflict with Wikipedia’s core principles.
The lack of substantial, reliable, and independent sources, combined with misleading representations of his role and achievements, underscores why deletion is the appropriate course of action.
This ensures that Wikipedia maintains its integrity as a neutral, verifiable, and comprehensive encyclopedia that avoids promotion, embellishment, or trivial coverage. McKhan (talk) 22:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply