Talk:Pyromancy

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Thesniperremix

Thesniperremix (talk) 05:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Capnomancy

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I have added a link to Capnomancy, a form of Pyromancy. Please contribute to the Capnomancy page!

Please your name in when you leave a message.Thesniperremix (talk) 10:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Rei Hino uses pyromancy as divination in Sailor Moon. Her original name is a pun on that ("hi no rei", written with different kanji = "soul of fire"). She is pyrokinetic as well.

Can someone add a source for that I saw it on the characters wikipage but we need a reliable source.Thesniperremix (talk) 10:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

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This article lists two supposed "pyromancers" in fiction: Super Mario and Scorpion. It is clear from what is written that neither characters possess pyromancy abilities in any way defined in the main article.

In both cases, the characters seem to be able to adapt fire in order to attack enemies. This has nothing to do with pyromancy, which simply means making divinations based on the observance of fire or smoke - no fireballs included!

While these aren't the traditional pyromancer, the common vernacular (primarily in fantasy genres) involves the creating of fire through magic. I will agree that Mario and Scorpion are horrible examples, but I think the summoning of fire as a version of pyromancy should be added as a section. Better examples would be from literature [1]. I'll have to look deeper to find a specific example, but hopefully we can expand and better describe the pyromancer. --Bakkster Man 04:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)Reply


I've removed or consolidated most of the "Pyromancers in fiction" section. Please read the first sentence of the article. Pyromancy is divination, regardless of its common misuse to refer to any kind of fire magic, which is already noted in the article. Please only include references that are relevant to the topic of this article. --Nasarius 05:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Could someone please change the etymological definition of "pyromancy"? It's derived from Greek τὸ πὺρ (to pyr - fire) and ἡ μαντεία (he manteia - divination).

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"Due to the importance of fire in society from the earliest of times, it is quite likely that pyromancy was one of the earlier forms of divination. It is said that in Greek society, virgins at the Temple of Athena in Athens, regularly practiced pyromancy. It is also possible that followers of Hephaestus, the Greek god of fire and the forge, practiced pyromancy. In ancient China, pyromancy was practiced in the Neolithic period and Shāng and Zhōu dynasties in the form of burning or heating oracle bones -- usually the scapulae (shoulder blades) of oxen or turtle shells -- to produce cracks which were then read as portents. Inscriptions on such oracle bones from the late 商 Shāng Dynasty are important, as the earliest significant corpus of written Chinese ever found."

Can anyone show some proof for this?Thesniperremix (talk) 10:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply