Talk:Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia
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editThere are written that protectorate was established in March 15th but in fact it was officially established in 16th March. Also German army invaded in March 14th and that day was fought the only regular battle between czechoslovak and german army so sentence that it was without shot is not valid. (reference (in czech): hhttp://armada.vojenstvi.cz/ - Predvalecna - studie a materialy - Armada a okupace v breznu 1939). PN79 (talk) 02:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
List of eridicated villages
editHave/know anyone all/most of all vilages eradicaed by germans in protectorate bohemia and moravia ? except writen lidice nad lezaky (42) and known javoricko (last eradicated village in war) (45) all others are relative unknown. --193.86.159.148 (talk) 19:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Protectorate of Bohemia/Moravia
editHow much of the modern Czech republic (in km2 and mi2) was annexed each to Bavaria, Lower Austria, and Upper Austria? And what was the area of Bohemia, and of Moravia as a result of that annexation? --JamesR1701E (talk) 13:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- What is the area of each of the Regierungsbezirke and Bezirke in the Protectorate? I cannot find this information anywhere on the Wikipedia. --209.34.235.6 (talk) 19:04, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Deaths and losses
editThe count is a bit weird : « Czech losses resulting from political persecution and deaths in concentration camps totaled between 36,000 and 55,000 » « The Jewish population of Bohemia and Moravia (118,000 according to the 1930 census) was virtually annihilated …more than 70,000 were killed » « The extermination of the Romani population was so thorough that the Bohemian Romani language became totally extinct ».
Does it mean that the Jews and Romani people were not Czechoslovakian citizen ?
In this article Lety and Hodonín concentration camps it is said that « During the course of the war, a total of 4,831 Romani people from the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia were sent to Auschwitz concentration camp. Of those, few survived. »
The total losses seems to be between 36,000 « ethnic » Czech + 70,000 Jews + 4,800 Romanies ( 111,000 Czechoslovakian citizen ) and 120,000.
Am I right ?
Milemfr (talk) 21:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
The two references seem to be advertisements by a dealer in rare books. Should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.158.121 (talk) 23:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Jewish holocaust in Prague and Tchecoslovakia
editDoes anyone know sources on that subject ? I am a bit skeptical about the statement that thousands of jews managed to hide and survive. Tchecoslovakia was not like France where the population actually protected most of the jewish population. There is room for a debate...--Alexandre Rongellion (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- I am skeptical of all the extermination claims and figures given in this article without any sources. I indicated a need for citations. I would just delete the unsourced claims, but that would probably get people upset. Giordano Bruno (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Alexandre Rongellion. Try checking out the 2005 book The Jews of Bohemia and Moravia: Facing the Holocaust by Livia Rothkirchen, which is considered to be the standard work on the subject. I hope this helps! --A.S. Brown (talk) 06:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
File:BOH&MOR-1-Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia-1 Koruna-(1939)ND.jpg to appear as POTD soon
editHello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:BOH&MOR-1-Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia-1 Koruna-(1939)ND.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 2, 2017. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2017-06-02. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Repeated reinstatement of unsourced content
editWP:V makes it clear that "Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." and "Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed." ThecentreCZ (t · c) buidhe 06:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
This doesn't apply here. This obvious fact was removed in some non-factual edit in recent time. If someone is not satisfied with the content of articles, they can add notification about unsourced material with proper date, which looks like this [citation needed]. Not removing it without any note randomly. --ThecentreCZ (talk) 06:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- It seems like you don't understand Wikipedia policies. It doesn't matter if you know a fact is true, it also must be verifiable. And even if there was a source, I'm not sure it would be WP:DUE in the infobox. (t · c) buidhe 07:38, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
I agree with buidhe here. ThecentreCZ, if this was indeed the anthem during the period of the Protectorate as well, it shouldn't be too hard to find a reliable source. Or two. Lkb335 (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Ratings upgraded
editChanged from Start to B-class for all ratings. David notMD (talk) 10:36, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Recent edits
editHi A.S. Brown, thanks for attempting to improve the article but I think the recent edits on the why and how Czechoslovakia was occupied is more relevant to occupation of Czechoslovakia. A certain amount of background information is certainly reasonable to include but I think this article should focus on the Protectorate itself, its governance structure, politics, economy, etc. (t · c) buidhe 01:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Buidhe, your're welcome! I was actually done on the economic background for why the occupation occurred. Maybe some of the material might be placed in the article that you suggested. I think the article should at least mention that the fundamental reasons for the occupation was economic. Czechoslovakia was the world's 7th economy and it played a critical role in the German war effort-which the article alluded to, but I think some more should said about that. I have to go out to attend some errands. When I get back, I'll decide what should and should not be trimmed. Best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 01:27, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Buidhe, I took up your thoughtful and useful suggestion. You were right about that, and I moved a lot of the material to the article that you suggested, which did need it. Thank you for help and time and I hope all is well. Best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 07:56, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
The Jewish population of Bohemia and Moravia
editTwo sets of numbers, should be integrated. Xx236 (talk) 08:04, 30 August 2022 (UTC)