Talk:Proskynesis

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This article is inaccurate. Proskynesis (or the infinitive, proskynein) means "to fall at/before the knees". See the applicable page in Woodhouse, which happens to include both "kiss" and "knee". http://artflx.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/efts/dicos/woodhouse_test.pl?keyword=^Kiss,%20subs.

Also, any discussion of the proskynesis which fails to mention the Byzantine Empire (after Constantine), Justinian or Otto Treitinger is clearly deficient.

67.90.54.2 (talk) 17:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation?

I've put the pronunciation into IPA. I'm not sure if it's correct (it looks correct to me, but can someone else have a look at it, just to doublecheck?) The previous example was phonetic 'pross-kin-ee-sis', so I've put it into proper IPA, taken from similar related words on wiktionary. Also, I'm not sure if the template (en) is correct. Help? magentafeelings (talk) 23:19, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Etymology question

Noticed that the following had been inserted into the article by 68.49.250.150, thought I should move it to the talk page.

"Check this. I believe the etymology you are presenting is incorrect. Check the root, KYNOS, ancient word for DOG. It's to assume the posture of a dog."

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--Thanks, Ainlina(box)? 12:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

From the word προς, meaning 'towards to' and κυνέω, meaning 'to kiss'. Stroumel (talk) 16:13, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Kallistos (Timothy)

The opinion of Kallistos (Timothy) in the article („In the Eastern Orthodox Church the term proskynesis is used theologically to indicate the veneration given to icons and relics of the saints; as distinguished from latria, the adoration which is due to God alone”) is a frank fiction. The expression „τιμητικήν προσκύνησιν” in the dogma of the Second Council of Nicaea is not „veneration”, but „respectful worship”. In Latin, it looks like „honorariam adorationem”. Philip Schaff writes about this: „The Nicene Council nullified the decrees of the iconoclastic Synod of Constantinople, and solemnly sanctioned a limited worship (proskynesis) of images.”Wlbw68 (talk) 09:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

References

what about Pastarianism

LDS sect is getting a mention, too! 88.74.24.21 (talk) 17:11, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Merger discussion

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge; no arguments in support; uncontested opposition; topics are sufficiently distinct to warrant separate discussion. Klbrain (talk) 12:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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Merger proposal to the page Adoration Pincermitosis (talk) 10:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• My inclination is that these are sufficiently distinct topics that they do not need to be merged: we have articles for other similar gestures (e.g. kowtow; many of the articles in Category:Gestures of respect). Why do you think they should be merged? Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose: same as Caeciliusinhorto-public above. Proskynesis describes a specific practice within its cultural context, while adoration should be more general – if anything, that article should be expanded to include more cross-cultural info as well as psychological commentary. Slovborg (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose for the same reasons. BobKilcoyne (talk) 06:52, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.