Talk:Prison rape in the United States

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Statistics

There are a ton of "x is five times more likely"-type statistics that don't say what they're compared to. The article would be improved by fixing these, but I don't know enough on the subject.

Just from the intro: "at least 140,000 inmates are raped" - per year? "young men are five times more likely to be attacked" - than old men? then non-inmates? "prison rape victims are ten times more likely to contract a deadly disease" - than non-inmates in general? than non-inmate rape victims? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paranoidbeemer (talk • contribs) 01:11, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I wondered if there is any reason for this issue being so prevalent in the USA but for instance in the UK - I don't have a lot of evidence for this - most recent http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/04/andy-coulson-rolf-harris-different-prison-fates

Around teatime, prisoners will be handcuffed and placed in cellular vehicles (sweatboxes, in the jargon). Coulson is bound for Belmarsh, the sprawling relatively modern local nick in Woolwich, south London. His fellow travellers will know they have a celeb on board and will take the piss and probably warn him not to bend down in the showers. The threats are hollow words: rape is virtually unknown in prisons in England and Wales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.117.31.2 (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Unloved article?

This article needs a lot of work. I just removed a completely ridiculous external link that'd been sitting there since 2007. Does this just not get much attention?
--Qwerty0 (talk) 12:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

This article has long paragraphs that are not well cited / biased. There are several instances of repetitive word choice and circling around a point. Not sure why this article isnt better.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:3800:CE60:D81E:2089:3844:B392 (talk) 00:43, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Needs Evidence

I just edited out this line, again:

"Statistics also indicate that there are more men raped in U.S. prisons than non-incarcerated women similarly assaulted."

....because it doesn't meet the verifiable standard. If anyone can point to research or statistics that prove the assertion convincingly, then by all means let's put it back in. As things stand, though, it's not a quality line. RyanGrant (talk) 18:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Bias?

The second paragraph of the politics line seems to carry a bias when it is talking about how prison rape is acceptable. I don't know how to rephrase this but it is a good topic to bring up. Edogmad (talk) 04:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

removed original research

There was a whole section debunking the original numbers in the article, I removed it because a) its original syntheis and b) done incorrectly. What would be appropriate is a multiplying the number of people in the US who have been in jail or prison in the US but the math was using the current number of 2+ million. 10 years ago the total who had ever been in prison (not counting jail) was 5+ million and its likely higher than that now. http://justice.uaa.alaska.edu/forum/20/4winter2004/b_prisoners.html Face facts. Richmondian (talk) 01:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Pop culture

I'm confused to why there is a "pop culture" section of this page. Should Wikipedia compile a list of important pop references on the rape article? The mention that it has entered American humour, however disgustingly sexist that may be, is all that is required to fulfil this acknowledgement. I can only see this section to lighten and mock a -- usually overlooked -- sexual crime. --Inops (talk) 01:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

No citations.

There are no references to Manson being raped in the article (that I can find). Nor can I find any anywhere online, feel free to re-add his name if you find something. CharmlessCoin (talk) 16:38, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

2012 DOJ Directive for Prison Rape

Bear with me as this is my first ever attempt at an edit. In 2012 the DOJ released a universal new directive which expands upon what was originally enacted by the PREA act of 2003 and is applicable across all corrections institutions. Like most any government document, it is needlessly long to account for every contingency one could possibly fathom, but I think providing a quick summation or some bullet points of key provisions would be appropriate here. Thoughts? --WhisperToMe (talk) 18:35, 12 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaflyrobby (talk • contribs) 18:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

References

Citation 10

Why does this go to a footnote that says citation needed instead of just saying [citation needed]? It makes it look like there is a source for the claim being made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.67.57.47 (talk) 06:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Prison rape and sexuality / Needs references

"Shame regarding perceived homosexuality may contribute to the under-reporting of prison rape by victims. Prison rape statistics are much higher than reported, as many victims are afraid to report, being threatened with physical violence by rapists if reported, as well as staff indifference." I absolutely believe this is true, and that is why it is so important that this speculation be sourced/attributed. The lack of attention to this article is disgusting. Imagining a nation of 200 million people who are comfortable ignoring this going to church this weekend makes me feel sick if I let it. Yes, I was just reading obnoxious pop culture reviews of that new Will Ferrell movie. So what? It's still true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.208.152.11 (talk) 09:58, 4 April 2015 (UTC) </nowiki>

Possible sources

• Williams, Mary Elizabeth. "Prison rape isn’t funny" (Archive). Salon. June 25, 2012.
• Meslow, Scott. "Why Hollywood needs to stop treating prison rape as a punchline" (Archive). The Week. March 6, 2015.

WhisperToMe (talk) 18:35, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Seems to Exclude Women's Experiences

This article seems to be mainly about men's experiences with prison rape-- I think it would be valuable to have information/statistics regarding women's experiences, especially in regard to abuse from correctional officers. — comment added by 72.71.132.105 (talk) 03:42, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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