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Man's Sphere, Woman's Sphere

Very impressive historical entry for this obscure movement! Well done! I would add, however, that a critically important subject is all but missing here: how the women in this movement are to think, feel, act, look, behave, be. This is a distinctive of the Plymouth Brethren that is central to its doctrine and practice. In Gathering Unto His Name (chapters 7 & 14), for example, Norman Crawford speaks definitively of a man's sphere (the public sphere) and a woman's sphere (the home), as does Sydney Maxwell in The Person of Christ (chapter 26). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinyblip (talk • contribs) 15:43, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Plain English

I changed "planting churches" to "establishing churches" because the article is written in English. This was reverted because th PB had written their own language - which of course they are entitled to do. However, the Wikipedia reader needs the English language to be consistent. For example, John planted turnips, and, John established an organisation. We should be careful not to write articles as publicity for the subject's organisation. Francis Hannaway (talk) 20:00, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

It is not "publicity" for anything. The article already utilizes and explains terminology used within PB circles, such as "Brethren assemblies (as their gatherings are most often called)", "open Brethren", "exclusive Brethren", and "Lord's Supper". The PB circles have not "written their own language" and this is hardly "inconsistent" use of the English language. —Dilidor (talk) 11:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Notable People

It's true that Aleister Crowley was raised in the Plymouth Brethren, but as an apostate, does he really belong here? And identifying him as the MAIN inspiration for the Beatles? I wouldn't argue the fact that he was an inspiration for the Beatles, but the main one? Man, somebody is grinding an axe here! GnatFriend (talk) 11:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Like it or not, AC is the singlemost notable person to come out of the Brethren. I've added him back in, though without the Beatles reference. 2600:8806:3400:E300:218F:2F4C:E661:CA15 (talk) 05:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Ken Follett is also listed. Although raised in the Brethren, as an adult he's an atheist. Indeed, it's difficult to play any major public role in the modern world as an observant member of the Brethren, as the rules are so restrictive. --Ef80 (talk) 16:29, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Covid contracts

Concerned that the information contained in subheading regarding covid contracts is irrelevant, what does it matter that this group has people who independently own companies that are awarded contracts? Feels unusual for listing under a Wikipedia article regarding a religious sect.

Secondly the information contained does not reflect the citations, with one saying only £1.1bn worth of contracts awarded while the article claims £2.2bn. Can someone straighten out this confusion? Being off by £1.1bn seems... A lot... 2A00:23C4:2281:7B01:F54F:B840:F845:B29B (talk) 09:06, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Context has not been provided by the editor as to why this is important information. The Plymouth Brethren Christian Church (not to be confused with this article) has been viewed as controversial in the UK for their practice of "shutting up". Questions were raised as to why contracts were awarded to such a group.

I would argue that this section is irrelevant for Plymouth Brethren and should instead be moved to the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church page. ThermoBoard (talk) 19:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)