Talk:Pigs in blankets

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Pigs in blankets, prepared but not yet cooked

• ... that in the UK, pigs in blankets (pictured) will be served as a side dish at most Christmas dinners? Source: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/food/a30077932/christmas-food-trends-2019-tesco/ "Pigs in blankets are top for trimmings, chosen by 59% of the nation"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Futures (album)
  • Comment to promoter: This would be great if held for December 5th, National Pigs in Blankets Day, and run during UK daytime!
  • Comment to reviewer: Just a heads up about this creation...there'd been a split proposal at Pigs in a blanket for years. I came in on the 21st when there were just a couple of sentences about this subject in that article and started fixing. I got it to the point I thought it could be split, and on the 22nd I split it off, and I think I added sufficient readable prose but wanted to make sure the sequence of events was clear to the reviewer that the prose was added to an existing article prior to splitting. I'm not actually sure that is kosher here, you might want to open a section at talk. :D

Converted from a redirect by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 14:30, 22 October 2022 (UTC).

• ... New enough, long enough, QPQ provided, image clear and free. Hook in article followed by several citations to references containing hook fact. Reads well although the article could be structured with sections. No copyvio issues. I think it is a good dyk and not to worry about how it came from a redirect. Whispyhistory (talk) 02:51, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment. It may be just me, but is this true? I have attended many Christmas dinners and have never seen pigs in a blanket. I see the hook is based upon a "Tesco Christmas report" of "the nation". The whole nation or a few people in a focus group? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

ALT1 that pigs in blankets (pictured) aren't pigs in a blanket? Philafrenzy (talk) 09:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Approving ALT1. Awaiting comment from @Valereee: regarding comment. Thanks @Philafrenzy:. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:28, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Whispyhistory, oh, I like that ALT! Yes, that's fine with me! Valereee (talk) 13:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Valereee:.... Let's keep ALT1. FYI... Google scholar comes up with lots of interesting articles pertaining to pigs in blankets. [1]. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, both! And for the google scholar, I'll go see if I can find more! Valereee (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Whispyhistory, National Pigs in Blankets Day is going to be December 5th, would you be willing to move this to Template_talk:Did_you_know/Approved#Special_occasion_holding_area? Valereee (talk) 12:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment @Valereee:, @Whispyhistory:, I don't think this is eligible for DYK as most of the text has been spun out of an existing article, see WP:DYKCRIT 1 a. TSventon (talk) 15:33, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

TSventon, I created all of that content from what had been a couple sentences in the original article to see if I could find enough to justify splitting, then when I saw it was enough I split the article and continued to expand. I'm interpreting our rules as allowing this, but feel free to open a section at talk to discuss! Valereee (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for comments. It looks fine to me. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:10, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

@Valereee:, sorry, I missed that you were moving text you had newly added. On that basis it looks fine. TSventon (talk) 17:38, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

No worries, I brought it up myself in the note to reviewer above. :D Valereee (talk) 17:41, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

They're Dutch!!!

Pigs in the blanket are a traditional Dutch dish known as Saucijsjes and they go back way before 1957. Dutch immigrants brought them to America around the mid-1800s. My mother was making them for Christmas Eve dinners in our home beginning in the 1940s. The Pella (Iowa) Dutch Cookbook, a collection of recipes contributed by members of a local church, included at least two recipes for saucijsjes in the 1950s and called them a traditional Dutch recipe. And they're made with ground pork, not a premade sausage in a casing, and the ends are closed, not open. This is one of the biggest whoppers I've ever seen on Wikipedia. 24.127.191.163 (talk) 03:05, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Goodness me! You’ve lived a very sheltered life if this is the biggest ‘whopper’ you’ve ever seen on Wikipedia. The item you describe appears very different from what are popularly called in the UK as being “pigs in blankets”. 146.199.132.137 (talk) 09:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

That dish appears to be more like Pigs in a blanket; I've added this there:

In the Netherlands, Saucijzenbroodje is a puff pastry roll filled with seasoned minced meat. Valereee (talk) 16:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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Delia Smith

This article quotes the zombie fact that Delia Smith popularised Pigs in Blankets by including them in her 90s cookbook; this appears to be false.

I own that Cookbook, and I can’t find them, nor are they included on the accompanying tv show (available in the Uk on iPlayer) nor in the later book (DS Happy Christmas). Both books mention the similar Bacon roll (tightly wrapped bacon cooked on a skewer - without a sausage), but this is clearly a different dish, and not one she dwells on.

There are dozens of articles saying essentially the same thing about the Delia cookbook, but I can’t identify the original, in any case it is clearly wrong! 2A01:4B00:D000:5F00:1CAA:CD95:FC1C:FD70 (talk) 13:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I've removed the entire paragraph. It's entirely possible most if not all the articles referring to Delia popularising them have lifted the claim from this article.

Also, the reference to the first recipe appearing in 1957 was in an American cookbook, so it won't have been a recipe for the British version. Barry Wom (talk) 13:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Just coming here to say that. OED has 1999 as it's earliest reference to the _name_ "Pigs in Blankets" 2A00:23C8:4286:401:DCE7:5837:CBE2:4D21 (talk) 08:24, 26 December 2023 (UTC)