Talk:Pi Dou mass rally

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The result of the move request was move back to Struggle session, as the more common term in English. Aervanath (talk) 05:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

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Pi Dou mass rally → Struggle session — The commonly used English name for this is a "struggle session". Per Wikipedia naming conventions, I would recommend that it be renamed as such. "Pi-dou mass rally" is rarely used in English literature on the Cultural Revolution, and usually used only once in reference to the Chinese name. L ^talk 11:48, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I object to the original name being moved to "Struggle Session", though the term "Pi-dou mass rally" hardly being used in English literature, the term 批斗(Pi-dou) is really quite a commonly used term and understood by every chinese. And 批斗(Pi-dou) is not only limited to Cultural Revolution, and been used throughout the Chinese communist history. Arilang ^talk 04:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

A search on Google reveals that there are at least some sources that use the phrase "struggle session". Therefore I don't think the move is justified and should be reversed, even though it was done in good faith. Colipon+(Talk) 15:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Just to confirm, Colipon, you believe that the move to "Pi-dou mass rally" is unjustified and should be reversed? If so, I agree. Because it is "a commonly used term [in Chinese] and understand by every Chinese" is not a good enough reason to have an article with such a title in English, where the audience is English speakers, not Chinese speakers. I speak Chinese, and when I am speaking on this topic in English, I use "struggle session" because this is the accepted term in that language; when I speak on it in Chinese, I use "批斗" because this is the accepted term in that language. L ^talk 03:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

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Strongly object to move again

1. Struggle session is not a good translation at all, and it is the main reason why I choose "Pi Dou"(批斗) when I created the article, because "struggle" only convey the meaning of 斗爭. As explained in the lead section, 批斗 is a short form of 批判斗爭, the full meaning is:To critise(批), To hand down verdict(判), and to "Struggle"(斗爭).
2. When we know that the Chinese-English translation is not precise enough, we should try to avoide using it.
3. If we have to use "Struggle session" as the name of the article, I suggest this way:Pi Dou mass rally(Struggle session) Arilang ^talk 05:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)