Talk:Philippine Standard Time
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—Yamara ✉ 16:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Why PST and not PHT
editThe official legal abbreviation is PST, not PHT nor PhST. It is in the Philippine law.
REPUBLIC ACT NO. 10535 SEC. 1. Short Title. – This Act shall be known as “The Philippine Standard Time (PST) Act of 2013”. SEC. 2. Display of the Philippine Standard Time. – All national and local government offices shall display the Philippine Standard Time (PST) on their official time devices, ... SEC. 3. Monitoring, Maintenance and Dissemination of the PST. ... [Source: http://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2013/05/15/republic-act-no-10535]
It is unfortunate that the abbreviation conflicts with US Pacific Standard Time, but there is no ISO standard for abbreviating time zones. Countries give names to their own time zones. This inevitably leads to conflicts. Examples:
- Indian Standard Time (UTC+05:30), Irish Standard Time (UTC+01), Israel Standard Time (UTC+02) are all officially abbreviated IST
- Central Standard Time USA (UTC−06), China Standard Time (UTC+08), Cuba Standard Time (UTC−05) are all officially abbreviated CST
- Mountain Standard Time USA (UTC−07), Malaysia Standard Time (UTC+08) are both officially abbreviated MST
If China Standard Time can use CST and Malaysia Standard Time can happily use MST, what can't Philippine Standard Time use PST?
It is true that Americans can get confused by the use of conflicting names, but they also somehow brought it to themselves for using such generic descriptors as "Central", "Pacific", "Mountain", and "Eastern". These only reflect what the US calls their own time zones. It (is not)/(should not be) intended as an international name for that zone. Otherwise, it would sound funny to say Central since it is just central to the US and not the world, unless of course Americans think that their country is the whole world, but that is another story.
If you want something of an international standard, you can use the IANA TZ database in which Philippine time is called Asia/Manila.
TLDR; Philippine Standard Time is PST. That is official and legal. It is irrelevant if the US also uses the same abbreviation for one of their own zones
- Yes, it is irrelevant if the US also uses the PST abbreviation for one of their own zones. It is also irrelevant if some individuals and organizations inside and outside of the Philippines choose net to use the PST abbreviation for Philippine Standard Time which is used in RA10535. One current example of such an organization is the Republic of the Philippines Presidential Communications Operations Office (PCOO) -- see the timestamp in the upper right corner of the content part of their home page at https://pcoo.gov.ph/. Most official Philippine government web pages I have looked at do not use an abbreviation for Philippine Standard Time; see, for example, http://gov.ph/.Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- The PCOO probably just used a plugin from Wordpress or something. Filipinos are not smart. They just use things without thinking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.134.213 (talk) 10:08, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Why PHT and not PST
editUnderstanding that an edit on Philippine Standard Time says that it is abbreviated as PHT and not PST, we should still stick to the official abbreviation. I'm also assuming that PHT stands for Philippine Time. For the time being, I'll re-add the PST abbreviation and remove the original comments. I'll post them here.
The edit is as follows:
PST stands for Pacific Standard Time. It has been widely accepted in multilingual and multinational systems that PHT is the correct abbreviation. While the DOST's PAGASA uses PST, it creates massive confusion among users.
Hopefully that's considered. --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
RE: links
That link is kinda pointless and has bad popups when you navigate there. I say remove it. Eagleapex 18:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
DST in the Philippines in 1990s
editWhile it's true that there were power outages in the early 1990s, Daylight Savings was not practiced anywhere in the country during that time.
- Noted. I'll add a [citation needed] tag. And oh, please sign your post by typing four tildes. Thanks! Xeltran (talk) 05:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Davao City
editNasugbu batangas added a note to List of time zones#UTC+8, H that Davao City is ten minutes ahead of Philippine Standard Time, but this article stated it was fifteen minutes ahead until 7 February 2007 when that statement was removed because it was unreferenced. Which is it? Or do different entities (city government, port, airport, television stations, businesses, etc.) use different times? Does a reference for this exist? — Joe Kress (talk) 08:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Title confusion
editWhat "Time in the Philippines" means? 1 o'clock? 2 o'clock? Whatever... It is recommended to change it to Philippine Standard Time... Agree or disagree? I agree. (Saxons) 04:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Language
editThis edit by @SomeRandomPasserby: changed ({{lang-fil...) to ({{lang-tl...), saying "Very nice try, you language cult group!". I reverted that, saying "[T]he Filipino language is the national language of the country and is one of the official languages. Tagalog, though it is a significant regional language, is not." That seemed reasonable to me (I'm not Filipino, and I don't speak any of the Philippine languages). My reversion was quickly unreverted by IP 75.162.213.147, saying "Read the article about Tagalog 'vs. Filipino.' The official language dubbed 'Filipino' IS Tagalog (the standard register". Actually, I do understand the relationship between Filipino and Tagalog. I'm not a big fan of inserting ({{lang-whatever ...) -- sometimes several of those, often including ({{lang=es ...) -- into articles relating to the Philippines but, while it is arguably true that the Filipino language is (presently, and likely permanently) one of a number of varieties of the Tagalog language, it is also true that the Filipino language is the national language and one of the two official languages of the Philippines, and Tagalog is one of a number of regional languages. IMO, this is editorial POV-pushing, but I don't want to get into a pissing contest about it. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:54, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Daylight saving time in the Philippines
editThe article is very short, and it can be easily covered within this article. ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 08:56, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
12-clocks only
editIt is written: "The Philippines is one of the few countries to officially and almost exclusively use the 12-hour clock in non-military situations.[citation needed][dubious – discuss]". Airports and airlines seem to use the 24-hour clock. Links:Find Flights at Mactan Cebu International Airport Arrivals & Departures Philippine Airlines. Also the national railway company has 24 hour clock timetables. Northbound & Southbound Timetable. Could those who defend the position that the Philippines mostly use the 12-hour clock, comment that and provide linked examples on that. Or I remove the text from the article.--BIL (talk) 11:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'll bite, BIL. While yes, the Philippines uses the 24-hour clock in aviation and military situations, in all other situations the 12-hour clock predominates. The 12-hour clock is almost exclusively used in land transport (the PNR timetable you linked to now uses 12-hour notation) and broadcast media, and in casual conversation no one uses the 24-hour clock. Even PAGASA's website, which shows the official Philippine Standard Time, displays the time in 12-hour notation. --Sky Harbor (talk) 04:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
WHAT HAPPENED DURING DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME IN PHILIPPINES 1978
editIf the 1990 DST was due to power outage what was the reason for DST 1978? 2001:FD8:1A4:7A49:CDF8:6905:A3DA:9417 (talk) 02:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)