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Copy violation
editAlot of the text from this page is copied directly from the official web site. A major rewrite would be nice focusing on organization and weapons, rather than just history. --Noypi380 15:22, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed. I'll see what I can do.Sharkface217 22:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Talk header
editPlease don't remove the talk header. It's there to remind people to sign their comments. Edward Sandstig 21:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
My References are deleated, Why!?!
editI keep puting the Barnegat-class frigate (BRP Andres Bonifacio(PF 7)) on the Frigate list in the article Philippine navy and I also put the references here it is [1]. So can somebody tell me why is it constantly being deleated!? What Wikipedia shouldnt have references to prove what im saying is correct. Why dont you just deleat all the references in this website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.107.236 (talk) 23:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, your adding of reference is proper, but the problem is, the source itself is too outdated. The owner of your sourced website is a friend of ours, and he himself says that for the last 10 years, he has not updated his website. Do not worry though, I have this upcoming article regarding BRP Andres Bonifacio, her other sisterships, and even other decommissioned Philippine Navy frigates. For your information, I have already posted articles in Wikipedia regarding 2 other decommissioned PN major vessels, the frigates BRP Datu Kalanitaw and BRP Datu Sikatuna, and the corvette BRP Leyte. I am just completing my sources for the articles. Please don't get upset though, Sandstig and I were just doing our best to keep the articles up to date and accurate as much as possible. It just happened that your post is outdated. Thanks for the concern trying to make the article a better one. I hope you understand why we deleted your post. Just continue reading, and who knows, you may end up reading a lot more than just the scrapped BRP Andres Bonifacio (by the way, even her carcass is gone). Happy reading!
- phichanad (talk) 12:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh ok. But Seriously does the Philippines only have 1 frigate I thought they might have more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.107.236 (talk) 23:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, only one frigate, and its really an old one. If only I could find a picture to the Andres Bonifacio I took is the mid 90s while it was half submerged in Naval Base Cavite. Actually we have noticed your posts to be too outdated, including your posts in Philippine military related articles. Please bear in mind that we are trying to keep the article up to date as much as possible, so please check your sources first before posting. If ever we delete some of your updates, it is because your posts were sourced from very old articles, or do not have any sources at all. Anyway, happy reading!
- phichanad (talk) 1228H 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Barko or Bapor?
editIf you have seen the history of this article, there was a time when Ruffyuppie and I were editing the article regarding the prefix "BRP" used by Philippine Navy ships. I went for "Bapor", he went for "Barko". Now both can be correct. But as a basis, as per Philippine Navy directives (see my reference on the article), "Bapor" is the correct word that is represented by the letter "B" in "BRP". For info of non-Filipinos reading, the words "Barko" and "Bapor" means the same (ship), and "Barko" is even more widely used than "Bapor". But to keep Wikipedia as accurate as possible, we try to correct the article to the most accurate level as possible. If we can change the letter "B" just as we like, we may as well use the word "Bangka" (boat) and it may still be considered correct. anyway, cheers and happy posting!
- phichanad 1814H 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Why was my Article about the Philippine navy gunboat deleated?
editI added another ship called the BRP Federico Martir PG 385 (Patrol Gunboat)[2] which is a Philippine Navy gunboat that paticipated in the SEAGULL Excersise between Brunei and the Philippines[3]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.25.93 (talk • contribs) 2008-09-28T22:58:44
- It was removed because BRP Federico Martir (PG-385) is already listed under the Jose Andrada class. Please refrain from inventing class names in the future. --Edward Sandstig (talk) 23:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Persistent IP vandal
editHi, Please note that a very persistent IP vandal has been adding hoax material to articles on the Philippines' military, military history and ethnic groups, including this article. The IP addresses they've been using include:
- 118.93.25.93 (talk · contribs) (30 September)
- 202.37.68.125 (talk · contribs) (19 September)
- 118.92.225.165 (talk · contribs) (17 September)
- 118.92.131.99 (talk · contribs) (13 September)
- 202.37.68.109 (talk · contribs) (12 September)
- 118.92.176.95 (talk · contribs) (29 August)
- 118.92.139.74 (talk · contribs) (22 August)
- 202.37.68.120 (talk · contribs) (2 August)
- 202.37.68.85 (talk · contribs) (12 July)
- 202.37.68.124 (talk · contribs) (11 July)
- 118.93.84.47 (talk · contribs) (7 July)
- 118.92.160.13 (talk · contribs) (2 July - admitted posting incorrect info at: [4])
- 68.89.176.172 (talk · contribs) (30 June, used this IP again for vandalism in early July, blocked 6 July - posted abuse on talk page and block extended for another month, responded by stating that they will continuine vandalism once the block expires [5])
- 118.93.111.221 (talk · contribs) (29 June)
- 118.93.143.205 (talk · contribs) (26 June
- 202.37.68.110 (talk · contribs) (25 June)
- 118.92.107.236 (talk · contribs) (25 June)
- 118.92.229.177 (talk · contribs) (20-21 June)
- 202.37.68.69 (talk · contribs) (17 May and 19 July, probable)
- 118.92.109.90 (talk · contribs) (5-7 May)
- 203.118.180.86 (talk · contribs) (28-30 April)
As such, anything added by IP addresses starting with 118.93., 118.92 or 202.37 should be considered highly dubious and I strongly recommend undoing such edits on sight. Nick Dowling (talk) 23:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Question
editIts me (the Russian) Tatiana (IP user 202.37.68.58) and the wife of (Pinouy) Martin (IP user 118.92.160.13). I was wondering if you could (if possible) make a Wikipedia page/article of the Jose Andrada Class. I to am a constant editor at Wikipedia. PS: I convinced Martin (IP user 118.92.160.13) to stop making edits without refrences. PS again: Before I came to the Phuilippines I was with the Soviet Air Force Command in Moskva (Moscow). Thats why I like military stuf. Martin (IP user 118.92.160.13) uses my computer often just incase ur wandering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.37.68.58 3:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Semi-protection
editGuys someone is editing the page about the Philippine Navy which is the number of strength of its personnel by adding unnecessary numbers and comments which is very annoying. would someone pls protect fully the article by disabling the "edit link" so that no one would write unnecessary comment on this page. Thank you --- John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.173.37 (talk) 01:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- The level of vandalism isn't sufficient for that yet, but I'll keep an eye on it. Nick-D (talk) 07:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Strategic Sealift Vessel
editThere were reports that this project is canceled, but until there is no formal confirmation, please do not remove the topic. Same is true for all other parts of the article. Thank you. phichanad 19:17 06 November 2010 (UTC)
PS-23, PS-29, and PG-884 retired
edit[6] The English translation is here:
MANILA, Philippines - Despite the lack of multi-billion fund for the Modernization Program of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), three old ships during World War II on the pinagretiro the operation of the Philippine Navy yesterday.
According to the Philippine Navy spokesman Capt. Giovanni Carlo Bacordo the PS-23 and P 29; were the patrol ship is equipped with the Internal Security Operations while the Patrol Gunboat PG -844 are all super old and have 67 years of using the navy.
Such ships were anchored at the Naval Station Naval Shipyard Pascual Ledesma in Cavite City.
Officials also explained that the stoppage in the use of such ships is due to too expensive magmintina the old ship is still time of World War II in addition to much to be slow and many defects.
"They had are impossible to maintain due to old age," said Bacordo 53 which in total is 25 patrol ships only be used to patrol operations.
While also realized with Captain Noel de Vera, Commander of the Naval Shipyard to take only the P35-M fund for maintaining a 102 ship Navy so important to promote the modernization of such troops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir Jazer 13 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
- what the f***?? phichanad 06:55 01 January 2011 (UTC)
Variant of or the real Makassar class landing platform dock ?
editI saw in this internet forum [7] (page 22) that the vessel to procure by the PN is a Makassar-class LPD. Is the PN really ordering a variant or the Makassar-class itself? (if verified, I will request an edit.)
Sir Jazer 13 (talk) 06:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- probably a variant, it just happened that the name "Makassar" is the only available name since the ship is only adapted by the Indonesian Navy. phichanad 06:55 01 January 2011 (UTC)
Can we create a section for decommissioned Navy ships?
editTo ease "deliberate searching" for decommissioned Navy vessels, I think we should create a section about it so readers will know what are this without searching this or by typing. The complete list is in this: [8]
Sir Jazer 13 (talk) 16:10, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done, but still open for more ships, I just do not have enough time, maybe somebody can help? See here -- phichanad 09:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
austin class landing dock ships and also tarawa class amphibious assault ships are available
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The USN is retiring both classes of ships and both classes currently have one example of each decommisoned and available. Could the phillipine ship yards modify and upgrade these and provide much needed employement at the same time? Put new electronics and equipment in them (US,swedish companies can help or provide techincal services). These would serve your marines well and give you response capability in times of disasters. Aquire some heavy lift helicopters (chinnook and Sea kings) and some attack helicopters (US marine corps super cobras) or maybe a few surplus british GR9 harriers) and you have a potent strike force for ground attack and support. Your navy needs too have a few front line warships (valour class mako frigate of south african Navy) and some Grippen, F18 or F16 top of the line fighters for your airforce. These warships and aicraft are where the big bucks should go. It is your front line equipment. Support vessels and aircraft (C130s) can be in used good shape and be upgraded. Obtain maritime patrol aircraft to cover your shorleines and preposition your patrol boats for quick response. Obtain a AWACS (embraier-SAAB ereyie) for air control and integrate with your maritime patrol aircraft (maybe the sigint intelligence version later on). Paratroopers anyone? (in lieu of many helicopters). Its an archipeligo nation and mobility is so key. You must have sufficient airlift and sealift capability (it does not need to be new. this is not a bluewater force. Its regional) Marines and Paratroopers where Mcarthurs main tools of island hopping. I do not think that strategy is too far off even now. The methods for doing it have changed. Not the intent. Attack Helicopters and 155 towed guns with Armored humvees, strykers and chinooks for army. Some locally made gunboats/quick boats for the coast guard (south african navy version is what US coast Guard is obtaining). Spend the money on the frigates and fighters! and get a austin class landing dock ship and tarawa class amphibious assault ship and upgrade modify them yourselves. Singapore has already bought one. There is one of each class decommisioned and a few more too retire soon as the replacements come online. We are pulling for you! your good and key allies. our futures are intertwined..... (lease the dang fighters or ships and buy the refurbed austin and tarawa and get some helicopters) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.227.206 (talk) 19:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sir, this is not a suggestion box for what PN will buy. Please see this. Please do not take discussions into articles and talk pages. Anyway, there are forums about such topics. You may talk about that there. Sir Jazer 13 (talk) 12:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
new ship
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dear sir,
gud pm po. gusto ko lang malaman kung kailan dating ng bagong barko natin. para makita namin ng familia namin.
thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.103.184 (talk) 13:43, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Splitting proposal
edit- FWIW, due to the heavy clutter of the article page, I'm initiating a proposal to split off the section of Philippine Navy#Ships in Service and to be created as List of ships of the Philippine Navy which is currently a redirect to the main article page. This should be a list of ships still in PN service, as well as those that has been decommissioned. Thoughts anyone? --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Why was my edits reverted?
editSince I started editing this page, which is unorganized, my edits are reverted. I summarized several parts for somehow, these parts lacks notability. Anyway, I'm trying to help this article promote to GA Status but I think I doesn't help. I'm open to suggestions and please, the Navy Future acquisitions are part of the Navy's modernization program so please don't create separate sections.
"The U.S. Naval Academy accepted its first Filipino midshipman in 1919"
editThe first Filipino accepted to Annapolis in 1919 was my grandfather, Jose Emilio Olivares, from Iloilo. He graduated in 1923 and was commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant of Coast Artillery in the Philippine Scouts instead of the U.S. Navy. He served in the Scouts through the war and was integrated into the Regular Army (U.S.) in 1948. He retired in 1953 at Fort Bliss, TX. Can his name be added to the main article? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by USMA-1982 (talk • contribs) 13:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
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Language Download PDF Watch Edit The Philippine Navy (PN) (Tagalog: Hukbong Dagat ng Pilipinas) (transl. Sea Army of the Philippines) (Spanish: Armada de Filipinas) is the naval warfare service branch of the Armed Forces of the Philippines. It has an estimated strength of 24,500 active service personnel, including the 8,300-strong Philippine Marine Corps.[2] It operates 82 combat vessels, 14 auxiliary vessels, 25 manned aircraft and 8 unmanned aerial vehicles. It shares the responsibility of patrolling the maritime borders with the Philippine Coast Guard, a formerly attached unit which became a separate maritime law enforcement agency in 1998. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.176.70.11 (talk) 22:57, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Peacefulness
editPaano po ba mag aral nang Philippine NAVY.Ano po ba ang dapat gawin para matoto o anung mga requirements para makapag aral. 110.54.229.72 (talk) 17:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)