Talk:Pelvic examination

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Gyno.Janine in topic External Exam Image

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

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  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 30 August 2021 and 21 September 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Orcas713, Tennisace97, A.lame.win.

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Requires more appropriate illustration

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--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

A tasteful diagram was added December 2008. Tim Pierce (talk) 20:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

More discomfort

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In the Discomfort section, I do not see several conditions that cause outright pain! during pelvic exams: vaginismus and vaginal stenosis.

Due to the various causes of vaginal stenosis, it could use an article of it's own - it has multiple mentions in several WP articles, but I don't see it mentioned in relation to pelvic radiation treatments, an all too common a cause. Exams can sometimes be accomplished with the use of the smaller-sized "virginal speculum", but not always.
"Vaginal Stenosis After Anal Cancer", Anal Cancer Forum blog post: American Cancer Society - http://csn.cancer.org/node/178477
"Radiation Therapy for Vaginal Cancer": American Cancer Society - http://www.cancer.org/cancer/vaginalcancer/detailedguide/vaginal-cancer-treating-radiation-therapy
"Radiation-Induced Vaginal Stenosis": The ONC[ology Nurse Community] - http://www.theonc.org/author.asp?section_id=1904&doc_id=247048

Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 02:24, 26 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Pap test

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As indicated by this Mayo Clinic source, the Pap test should be mentioned by name somewhere in the article, not simply have a link in the See also section. Currently, I don't see that it's mentioned by name...unless I overlooked it. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

UCSF Wikipedia elective plan

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Hello! As part of a course through UCSF School of Medicine, I am editing the Pelvic examination article. Below are my goals and work plan for the month. This is an ambitious list, and I may prioritize some goals over other as time allows.

-Make the article more concise, ensuring information is under the correct headings and defining jargon when needed.

-Add missing information to the lede and reorganize the lede into discrete paragraphs giving an overview, covering indications for the exam, and parts of the exam.

-Add a sentence on communication and trauma informed care to the lede.

-Add a sentence on managing discomfort to the lede.

-Add a sentence to “medical uses" on targeting parts of the exam performed to the indication for the exam.

-Add a section on communication and trauma-informed care, which will precede the external examination section.

-Reorder bimanual exam before speculum exam.

-Add section on diagnostic tests that may be performed at the time of a pelvic exam (Pap, POP-Q, cervical and vaginal swabs, polypectomy, endometrial biopsy).

-Reorder informed consent to earlier in the article as this is the first part of any procedure. Consider merging with “communication and trauma-informed care".

-Remove unnecessary and stigmatizing wording on obesity.

Work plan:

12/2/2019: Work plan completed on talk page

12/6: Identify sources for trauma-informed care and additional sources for the steps of a pelvic exam. Begin making smaller edits

12/11: Write communication and trauma-informed care section

12/16: Peer reviews complete. Smaller edits to other sections

12/20: Revisions complete

-Jammars (talk) 17:18, 2 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Peer Edits 1. Lead Section: Very clear, concise and direct, good work! This is a mere style point, but I'd consider separating out sexual assault as an indication for pelvic exams, and maybe mention that pelvic exams can be used to evaluate instances of pelvic trauma, such as sexual assault. I think it may also be useful to indicate the different settings for a pelvic exam (i.e. clinic vs OR vs ED/trauma setting). Also, when you briefly describe the parts of the exam, I think a few words to describe what is being evaulated at each part (like you did for the speculum exam) might be useful. Like saying how the external exam evaluates the external genitalia, the internal exam evaluates the uterus and ovaries, etc. Since there are actual sections for these parts there's no need for even a full sentence, description, it just might be helpful to have a few words as an intro to the rest of the sections. 2. Article (existing): I wonder how useful it might be to attach a hyperlink or other information source (like as a hyperlink?) so people can read more about trauma informed care if they feel like it'd be useful? I know you're already working on this but including more on truma informed care and specificaly the language component will be a really valubale addition this article. 3. References: all solid Good work overall, let me know if anything I'm saying doesn't make sense! Deanna.dawson (talk) 23:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Jammars, you should generally be sticking to WP:MEDRS-compliant sources. Also, you've made edits that have WP:Tone issues. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:23, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

CIC Wiki Workplan

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Article chosen: Pelvic Examination

Why this one? Include WP rating scale? How fit with your interests. Other details as desired: We chose this article as the pelvic exam is an important test that can be intimidating, so a well-written informational article can help give other people an idea of what the exam entails/what to expect. The article is rated Start-class, Mid-importance.

You WP editing team (up to 3): Audrey, Irina, Elaine

Initial Analysis of the article: Overall, the article is decently written. We found that the article was written with a medical audience in mind. The article was very instructional, explaining the steps of the exam.
Though it is a detailed article, it does not have many references. Of the references, we found that some of them were what we would consider reliable sources. We also found that some of the sources were also a bit outdated. Some of the links did not open. A lot of the references were from textbooks that we could not assess.
The subsections of the article (medical uses, preparation, external exam, internal exam, during pregnancy, and informed consent) are relevant. We found that the last two sections were shorter than expected.
I think that based on the general audience of Wikipedia, this article can be tailored to a more nonmedical population.

Overall organization, what changes? We are going to remove the separate section of Informed Consent and combine it with the Preparation, Communication, & Trauma-informed care section.

What will you add?Add more and update outdated references, helpful diagrams of internal and external organs to point out structures they talk about in article, update and expand the informed consent section (find better resource), add more links to other articles for medical terminology, add a sentence about low physiological risk but some emotional risk

What will you remove? We are going to remove the separate section of Informed Consent and combine it with the Preparation, Communication, & Trauma-informed care section.

What will you augment? Reduce medical jargon

What will you decrease coverage of? Nothing explicitly, but may shorten exam sections.

Roles in the project. List members and planned roles. We will separate tasks by section of the article. We will each perform the roles of readability editor, editor, linker, and researcher for each section we are assigned.

1. Medical Uses & Preparation, Communication, and Trauma-Informed Care

2. External Examination & During Pregnancy

3. Internal Examination

Team coordination plan: We will communicate via text and set up meetings if needed.

WIP presenter:all Orcas713 (talk) 17:34, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
This is one of the best wikipedia articles of all time. The organization is flawless, I especially appreciate the separation of the external exam and the internal exam. I also appreciate the trauma-informed approach to this article. I feel this is a very informative article. Nectarine123 (talk) 17:34, 20 September 2021 (UTC) Nectarine123Reply


May want to include more gender inclusive language, i.e. changing "women" to "people" or "persons" Change "Medical uses" to "Medical guidelines"Sp3494 (talk) 17:42, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

External Exam Image

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The image for external exam is incorrectly rotated. It needs to be rotated counter-clockwise 90 degrees in order to appear as it is typically depicted with front of person at top.

I don't know how to edit this Gyno.Janine (talk) 22:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oops--I was confused by this image, and I'm a gynecologist. The image isn't really rotated, just askew, given the examiner is retracting the labia asymmetrically. I replaced the image with another one that is more typical Gyno.Janine (talk) 02:32, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Gyno.JanineReply