Talk:Pedro

Requested move 13 November 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved - no consensus. Although lots of support for the motion, concerns from opposers were not clearly/directly addressed during the discussion. (non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 09:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

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• Pedro → Pedro (given name)
• Pedro (disambiguation) → Pedro

– no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views [1] Joeykai (talk) 05:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Shwcz (talk) 08:01, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support a split between the footballers, film and card game. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nominator. No clear primary topic for this title. The safest bet is to have the disambiguation page at the basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:20, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. The given name is the clear primary topic. The footballers have it as their given name! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:15, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nomination; Shwcz; Crouch, Swale; Paintspot Infez and Ortizesp. There are 22 bulleted entries listed upon the Pedro (disambiguation) page, with no indication that the renown of the masculine given name is at such a level that it overshadows the combined notability of the remaining 21 entries. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:22, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose because this is not a good argument against WP:PTOPIC. https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Pedro indicates that a fair number of outgoing clicks go to the hatnote (a bit less than 20%), and then https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Pedro%20%28disambiguation%29 shows most of them go to the mononymous uses of Pedro on the disambiguation page, and 14% go right back to Pedro.

The mononymous uses of Pedro on the separate disambiguation page are misplaced, because they're anthroponymy entries that are just fine at the existing main article.

If you look at the topics linked from Pedro, at https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Pedro you can see there's that the various people articles have so much traffic that they dwarf the sum of traffic to the film, the card game and whatever else that is there. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:33, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

I've gone through the other anthroponymy lists in this RM spurt, and simply added the mononyms first. Here, it doesn't seem to be so clear, because there's also sections for monarchs, etc. Should the laundry list of footballers named mononymously 'Pedro' go above or below other mononymous uses? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:02, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

I put them below, but above the other sportspeople. I also integrated the missing ones from the disambiguation page. Hopefully this actually helps navigation, with people who are searching for these being actually able to find them here. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 18:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

• Leaning oppose on the strength of most of the topics listed as ambiguous actually being instances of the name. BD2412 T 02:21, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:29, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per BD2412 since I was going to write almost exactly that: Most subjects on the disambiguation page are instances of the name. Pretty WP:PRIMARYTOPIC right there. Steel1943 (talk) 20:25, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. The given name is the primary topic; none of the other dab entries are anywhere close to as significant. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.