Talk:Pathways in Technology Early College High School

Addition to this page

Hi there! There's a small addition I'd like to request for this page to add in mention of a related initiative for IBM. What I'd like to suggest is adding a mention of how P-TECH relates fits into IBM's focus on providing workers with the skills for the high tech workplace, specifically the training up of "new collar workers". There has been some good coverage around this in secondary sourcing, so I believe it would be appropriate to add into this article. As a quick note of disclosure, I have a financial COI as I am here on behalf of IBM via Vianovo, as part of my work at Beutler Ink, so I prefer not to edit articles directly and am looking for editors to review my suggestion and add it if it seems reasonable.

The following is my proposed addition, to add after: "Through the close partnership with IBM, students are able to intern both at IBM and a variety of other corporations in New York.":

• P-TECH supports IBM’s broader initiative aiming to educate new collar workers with skills required in the modern workplace.

Markup

P-TECH supports IBM’s broader initiative aiming to educate new collar workers with skills required in the modern workplace.<ref name=Weller>{{cite news |title=IBM's concept of 'new collar jobs' could be vital in an automated future |author=Chris Weller |url=http://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-automated-future-new-collar-jobs-2017-1 |work=[[Business Insider]] |date=6 January 2017 |accessdate=20 September 2017}}</ref>

If this addition looks ok, I hope someone can add it into the article. Please do let me know if you have any questions. Thanks in advance! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 03:23, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

References

Hi there. First of all, the article is very promotional, so I've added the template at the top of the page. Now, for the proposed addition. Personally for me, it doesn't make sense to put it after that sentence. Perhaps merging the 2 together and talking about the support for the program first, and then the other sentence would be better (provided that all the promotional language goes away)? Things like "broader initiative" and "skills required in the modern workplace" aren't really acceptable. Regards, VB00 (talk) 16:03, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi VB00, thanks so much for your feedback! I agree about the page as a whole, perhaps it simply needs to be trimmed down? Right now it feels like there's a lot of content where it could be summarized more succinctly. A few suggestions I have:

• deleting the mention under Academic Program that "P-Tech was mentioned by President Obama on the February 12, 2013 State of the Union address."; this is also detailed later in the article and seems out of place here
• renaming Academic Program to Overview or Description
• removing the College and Career readiness section heading
• deleting the first paragraph that currently appears under that heading, as well as the sentence starting the next paragraph

If that was done, it would immediately remove some duplication of information. Then perhaps the details about how P-TECH relates to IBM's focus on new collar job readiness could be added at the end of the Academic Program/Overview section? Here's another shot at wording that without the phrasing you highlighted as promotional:

• P-TECH supports IBM's initiative to educate "new collar workers" with technical skills for technology-based jobs.

What do you think? Thanks again! 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 14:59, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

I've now applied several edits, where I tried to clean the article up as well as I could. Unfortunately, with all that promotional content removed, I don't feel like the proposed sentence addition will fit into the article. Still, if you plan to continue working on it, you should look into expanding the sections, as well as adding citations (something that the article is clearly lacking). Also, feel free to discuss the content that was removed, maybe something should've stayed and I didn't notice. Lastly, I no longer feel that the article is promotional, so I've removed the template. Regards, VB00 (talk) 16:06, 28 September 2017 (UTC)