Talk:PINK de Thierry/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 13:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I'll be glad to take this one. More in a minute. Thanks to you both for your work on it! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

While there's a lot of good information here, after a first pass, this article unfortunately appears to still need a great deal of work before meeting the Good Article requirements. For that reason, I'm not listing it at this time.

• In the lead, this article appears to need some citations for words like "ineffable" and "famous" to avoid an appearance of non-neutrality/original research.
• It's confusing that all the artwork titles are in bold; normally the English convention for artwork titles is either quotation marks or italics.
• The giant paragraph in "Early years" should be broken up into medium-size ones per WP:LAYOUT (a GA requirement).
• Bare links in the references should be given fuller citations.
• Per WP:EMBED (a GA requirement), it's probably better to move away from having each section be a list, and put more of the content into prose. Some very basic facts about these works could use more explanation--for example, who are the performers in MWC? Is it a man, woman, and child? or PINK herself?
• Discussion of PINK's artwork by secondary sources is notably absent. Has she received no reviews at all of her exhibitions? Critical responses assessing the quality and importance of these artworks would be a help. Surely her Los Angeles show got some reviews from American press, for example. If she's as famous as the lead claims, it should not be difficult to turn up sources about her.
• Copyediting is perhaps the article's biggest problem. A few issues I see at first glance:
  • Article varies between parenthetical citations and footnote citations for no obvious reason
  • "Early years" and "Formative years" sections waver between past and present tense (should all be past)
  • "and, subsequent, with Peter Brook/Yoshi Oida" -- should be "subsequently"
  • "metaphor of mankinds cultural transference in general" -- should be "mankind's" (or better yet, the gender-neutral "humanity's")
  • " PINK became known with her meta performance art projects, At Home - living 100 days in a painting -, Et in Arcadia Ego Sum - entering Arcadia in Germany - and Checkpoint to Dutch Arcadia - commanding the Royal Dutch Army to build this artwork -." -- I'm not sure I understand the punctuation of this sentence-- are the phrases in dashes subtitles? Why are the dashes being combined with other punctuation, like commas and periods?

Thanks for the work that's gone into this one so far--I hope you'll see this list not as discouragement, but rather as encouragement to keep improving it! Best of luck in revising and renominating, and keep up the good work, -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I've made a start on cleaning up this article, I have to say I'm VERY surprised it was nominated for GA status.

I've been looking for reliable third party mentions in the news [1] but they just don't seem to exist. The article appears to have been translated or created by someone with English as a second language which doesn't help it's readability. I've removed a couple of captions because they simply didn't make sense, it needs a LOT more work though.Theroadislong (talk) 15:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)