Talk:Orthopraxy

I don't understand

I don't understand the redirect. Orthopraxis means that somebody is inflexible in the practice of rituals and dharma. Hinduism is in many respects an orthopraxis relgion and not an orthodox religion. Andries 20:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

I want to replace the re-direct with the following

Orthopraxis refers to the right practice of a religion. It contrasts with orthodoxy, that refers to the right beliefs.

Andries 20:56, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Orthodoxy meaning

I want to correct the phrase "orthodoxy means "correct teaching". Actually orthodoxy means "correct belief/opinion", from ancient greek ορθο (ortho) + δόξα (doxa) < from verb δοκω meaning believe/i m of the opinion. Blue cave (talk) 12:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

"referring to emphasis on religious ritual as opposed to faith or grace etc."

The statement, that orthopraxy is the "emphasis on religious ritual as opposed to faith or grace etc." seems to be dubious. Doing a little research on the word, orthopraxy is not limited to ritual, but also rules of ethics and behavior. The phrase also translates to "correct action", and extends to the actions of daily life and social obligations. See Truth And Tolerance: Christian Belief And World Religions (2004) by Pope Benedict XVI (pages 125-126), Evangelicals and the Continental Divide (2003) by Sam Reimer (pages 103-117), Judaism in the New Testament (1995) by Bruce Chilton (pages 19-41), The Pure and Powerful: Studies in Contemporary Muslim Society (2000) by Nadia Abu-Zahra (pages 37-49). --151.201.147.161 (talk) 03:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Orthopraxis or Orthopraxy

While orthopraxis seems to get some use on the internet, I have having trouble finding the word used in in-print sources. I believe the more correct title is orthopraxy. --151.201.149.209 (talk) 16:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I spoke too soon. I'm staring at the word right next to orthopraxy in Westminster Dictionary of Theological Terms. I still feel that oethopraxy is still the more common and understood term. --151.201.149.209 (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Orthopraxy is a more appropriate title. Neelix (talk) 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I also agree. The more common usage is orthopraxy. I vote for changing to that. 98.199.93.90 (talk) 15:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Agreed 100%! That was much simpler than the tag implied. Believe "orthopraxis" is just an early-creation holdover. Google generic favors "-is" but Google Books and Scholar favor "-y". Requesting an admin perform a G6 deletion over redirect and move. JJB 22:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I've added a {{db-move|Orthopraxis|per Talk:Orthopraxis#Orthopraxis or Orthopraxy}} at the redirect. -- Fullstop (talk) 18:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Move completed. -- Fullstop (talk) 21:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

It is a pity that no philological advice was sought before making this uninformed move. The correct word formation considering the Greek origin of the terms is indeed "orthopraxis", even in spite of the appealing parallelism; and attachment to the etymology is ever recommended to orientate the development of new terms. The Greek roots at stake are "praxis" and "doxa". The vowel ending of the latter warrants the derivation of the noun ending in "y", but "orthopraxy" sounds quite like a barbarism, exactly as if you spoke of a "synthesy" or a "metropoly" ("monopoly" has yet a different origin). The plural should be like the one of "thesis". You may find that those who use "orthopraxis" come from contexts where the Classics are still studied, like some monastic orders. I think there are Wikipedians who would be happy to offer their expertise for such cases. What is crucial is that we be wary of the idea that this encyclopaedia should have Google searches as their ultimate authority. There are many centuries of precious studies lying in a marvellous world outside Google. The move should be reverted, in my opinion, but I would rather leave it to the previous editors, in order to avoid toing and froing. Meantime, I am adding a brief explanatory subsection to the article, for the common good. MT Editor (talk) 15:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Judaism section: is Judaism really primarily orthopraxic?

How does the notion of "if you mother is Jewish, you are Jewish" factor into this? Wouldn't this make Judaism an orthontic (correct way of being) religion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.244.155 (talk) 00:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

"Polytheistic Reconstructionism" vs. "popular Neopaganism"

"Polytheistic Reconstructionism such as Hellenismos provides a stark contrast to popular Neopaganism, being more conservative in nature." This sentence sounds a little vague and generalized. What exactly is meant by "conservative" in this context? Can a source be cited for this?68.203.14.51 (talk) 20:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I think it a rather clear, and very specific description based on the goals of Polytheistic Reconstructionism.

* "Polytheistic Reconstructionism such as Hellenismos provides a stark contrast to popular Neopaganism, being more traditional in style or manner."

* "Polytheistic Reconstructionism such as Hellenismos provides a stark contrast to popular Neopaganism, being more cautiously moderate in nature."

* "Polytheistic Reconstructionism such as Hellenismos provides a stark contrast to popular Neopaganism, being more disposed to restore traditional conditions, institutions, etc.

Dictionaries usually help if you have a problem understanding. --151.201.146.118 (talk) 16:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

And losing the attitude helps, as well - it's not a clear sentence, as conservative can mean many different things, such as a political leaning. And I agree, there needs to be some sort of citation, because right now, it's just a pov issue.--Vidkun (talk) 19:44, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

What about Buddhism?

Although some tend to see Buddhism as the ultimate "unorthodox" religion, there really are some central beliefs. I would see being "on the path" as the correct carrying out of those beliefs. This is an outsider's view; perhaps someone who is more in touch with Buddhist beliefs and practices would know whether it should be included in this article. Ileanadu (talk) 12:23, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Orthodoxy/non-orthodoxy ≠ orthopraxy/non-orthopraxy. -dox(y) is from doctrine. -prax(y) is from practise. Yes, Buddhist practises are relevant to this article... . Orthodoxys/non-orthodoxys of Buddhism are not relevant. I hope you already knew this. So, on Buddhist practises... ? ——--macropneuma 11:31, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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