Talk:Oroblanco

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Rollinginhisgrave in topic GA Review

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Reasoning for high price factually wrong and pure speculation.

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Actually, the high price and rarity is caused by the insanity of a patent on life. Which is of course null and void, or even illegal, in the civilized world, but honored in some of the more extreme neo-fascist industrial feudal states (USA, some EU ones, etc.), even though it’s highly illegitimate and morally unacceptable. — 88.77.141.136 (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Fruit Size

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What is the size range of the oroblanco fruit?LorenzoB (talk) 17:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Sweetie

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Currently, our article gives "sweetie" as an alternative name; how-ever, the footnote for that claim (https://goodfruitguide.co.uk/product/sweetie/) in fact differentiates the two, saying they are close (so, no cigar). Lower down, our article derives the NAME sweetie from 'a similar fruit' grown in Israel. Since our article does not give the botanical data on the Israeli fruit, it remains unclear. It looks like the article needs to be changed and a new article made for sweetie (or maybe for two sweeties?). Kdammers (talk) 09:19, 2 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

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The oroblanco (Citrus maxima × C. Paradisi) is a sweet seedless citrus hybrid fruit. It was developed as a cross between a diploid acidless pomelo and a seedy white tetraploid grapefruit, resulting in a triploid seedless fruit that is less acidic and less bitter than the grapefruit. The oroblanco was patented by the University of California in 1981 after its development at the university's citrus experiment station by Robert Soost and James W. Cameron. Oroblancos are either round- or oval-shaped with a thicker rind than grapefruit. The fruit is available from September through December and can be peeled and eaten like an orange. A similar fruit named the "sweetie" has been commonly cultivated in Israel since 1984. This photograph shows oroblancos grown in Israel, one whole and one sectioned. The picture was focus-stacked from 12 separate images.

Photograph credit: Ivar Leidus

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Kimikel talk 19:59, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that the oroblanco experienced a resurgence in popularity after Israeli growers began to market the fruit in Japan?
5x expanded by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 19:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC).Reply

GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Nominator: Kimikel (talk · contribs) 00:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 08:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'll review this over the next day ~ Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 08:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikibreak

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@Rollinginhisgrave I'm very appreciative that you decided to review my article. However, the last few days I've been preparing to fly overseas, and I'm flying out today. Would you be willing to wait for a couple weeks after you leave your comments so that I can address them after I return? Thank you. Kimikel (talk) 13:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

No worries, I'm sorry I didn't check your userpage before opening the review. I'll take a bit more time with the review if there's less rush, enjoy your trip! Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 13:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Finished up. Take your time, whenever you're back have a look. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Rollinginhisgrave I'm very appreciative of the review. I changed the majority of what you suggested (I left two small notes below) and I believe the article is ready to be reexamined whenever you get a chance. Thank you very much for your patience Kimikel (talk) 13:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Kimikel all looks good, just pending a quote for source [12] and I can pass. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Rollinginhisgrave I removed that sentence entirely as it erroneously included info about the melogold instead of the oroblanco. Kimikel (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for missing that. Passing now. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 23:50, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Prose and content

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  • than other varieties of grapefruit this may speak to my ignorance, but why is it a variety of grapefruit and not a variety of pomelo? Or is it both?
  • The hybrid was first created... this sentence has far too many commas.
  • where it also failed to find much commercial success. WP:IDIOM; commercially unsuccessful?
  • is a reduced amount of edible flesh. less?
  • I have gotten rid of the 2005 study as it was not MEDRS. Some info may be able to be salvaged. I removed the "with health benefits" part of the second study, such claims will need to be backed up with MEDRS.
  • grapefruit, such as WP:CINS
  • has been described as doesn't need attribution
  • In 1982, UCR chancellor Tomás Rivera ceremonially planted an oroblanco tree in front of the university's Citrus Experiment Station to celebrate the station's 75th anniversary.[20] why is this worth mentioning in the history of the oroblanco?
  • falling from 1,105 acres of oroblancos remaining in 2004
    • Done with all of these except for the first; it is definitely also a variety of pomelo but it was made as a "competitor" of sorts to the common grapefruit and as such is heavily compared to other grapefruits varieties in a lot of the literature I've cited so that's why I did that.

Suggestions

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  • It requires less heat for growth → to grow
  • after growers in Israel began growing the fruit when?
  • and in spite of its resurgence despite
  • Consider linking Ten Speed Press
  • "20 feet (6.1 m)" use one sig fig, as it is giving greater accuracy than you intend
    • Done; all I've found for the "when" is some websites claiming 1984 but they don't appear to be usable sources.

Sources

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  • [1a]  Y
  • [1e]  Y
  • [1k]  Y
  • [3a]  Y
  • [3e]  Y
  • [5a]  Y
  • [7a]  Y
  • [7d]  Y
  • [12] Can you give me a quote for this?
  • [18]  Y
  • [20]  Y
  • [21]  Y
  • [22]  Y

Other

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  • No COPYVIO/OR  Y 4.8% earwig
  • Neutral  Y
  • Stable  Y
  • Images appropriately tagged  Y (the article would benefit from the image of the cut green oroblanco on Commons)
  • Broad / summary style  Y

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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