Talk:Offertory

Merged content

A stub formerly at Collection plate has been merged into this article as a new section, per discussion at Talk:Collection plate. Station1 (talk) 09:48, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Lead Section

I rewrote the lead section and removed the boiler plate. I hope to add more content from the Original Catholic encyclopedia and other sources to cover some of the new topics I brought up in the lead in Zfish118 (talk) 18:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Other Content

I originally stumbled upon this section looking up the Offertory movement from Mozart Requiem. Mention of this and other significant compositions might be appropriate. A discussion of the Eucharistic theology might also be fit, such as the storage of unconsecrated elements versus consecrated, and the subtleties that exist between denominations.

This article would ultimately end up being a fairly specialized article (mid-importance?) Zfish118 (talk) 18:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Not so specialized- settings of offertories/offertoriums are not uncommon in church music. Mozart, Hummel, many another composer wrote them as separate works or as parts of masses or other larger church compositions. The definition given at the disambiguation page lists one other example- Gubaidulina's - and it is itself one, just with violin instead of human voices (and a more unusual approach to harmony and structure, but consider the composer.) However, from what little I know of the subject, offertory settings are examples of settings of propers, and could be subsumed in an article on the many different musical settings of Propers- music not included in the Ordinary of the Mass, the music sung on every/most etc-... not my topic of expertise, but hopefully I have the right idea. Schissel | Sound the Note! 19:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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Collection of alms

I removed this sentence:

Members of other assemblies, including some Lutheran churches, do not use a collection plate, but simply make arrangements to support their church without the temptation of using the collection plate for a public show of piety.

The first part of the sentence is obvious from the first sentence's reference to "some" Protestant worship services (and the "some" Lutheran churches bit isn't particularly informative). The second part of the comma seems to be casting aspersions. The whole thing lacks any citation. Sir rupert orangepeel (talk) 23:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

There is an obvious confusion between Offertory (bread and wine) and Collection (of Alms). The picture of the card terminal should have its text corrected, as it is a Collection of Alms facility, not the Offertory.acahopkins (talk) 20:13, 8 November 2019 (UTC)