Talk:North Mesopotamian Arabic

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Syrian Arabic

This article is wrong. I am maslawi (from Mosul) and at home we speak "North Mesopotamian Arabic" and I can assure you that it is not close to Syrian Arabic! It is very close to "Iraqi" or better "Central/South Mesopotamian Arabic" with some different pronounciations ("gh" for "r" etc.) and a few different words! But every speaker of "Central/South Mesopotamian Arabic" is fully able to understand "North Mesopotamian Arabic"! Of course "North Mesopotamian Arabic" is spoken in some parts of Syria - the mesopotamian parts! These parts should belong to Iraq anyways - but that is a different topic! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.136.196.52 (talk) 09:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Quite so. It's not part of the Syrian family. It's descended from medieval Iraqi Arabic. It just happens that Baghdadi Arabic has since then acquired some peculiarities from Gulf Arabic (e.g. "chebir", "gilit"), while Maslawi Arabic and Jewish Baghdadi Arabic stayed as they were before. For this reason, people from Southern Iraq find Maslawi Arabic and Jewish Baghdadi Arabic a little reminiscent of Syrian Arabic, meaning simply the Arabic of anywhere except Southern Iraq and the Gulf. The article should be amended to clarify this. --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 12:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Now done! --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

North Iraqi language → North Mesopotamian Arabic — This article was moved without discussion or consensus from North Mesopotamian Arabic. This language is not known within any reputable linguistic source as "North Iraqi", but is always referred to as "North Mesopotamian Arabic". It was moved in violation of WP:NAME which requires the usage of common English names. Taivo (talk) 09:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Situation resolved. (Taivo (talk) 10:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC))

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Where exactly in Iran is North Mesopotamian Arabic spoken exactly? The only Arabic dialects spoken in Iran are Mesopotamian Gilit(south west), East Khaleeji(south), and Khorasani(east)

Classification

The article states that North Mesopotamian Arabic is a sub-dialect of Mesopotamian Arabic, but that article states that it is also called South Mesopotamian Arabic. That would make North Mesopotamian Arabic a sub-dialect South Mesopotamian Arabic. Is that the case or is there an inconsistency there? Parabellus (talk) 22:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Splitting of North Mesopotamian and Moslawi

This article equates "North Mesopotamian" or Qiltu dialects with Moslawi, one specific dialect for Mosul. This is very confusing, as the Qiltu group includes a wide variety of dialects: Moslawi, Anatolian dialects, Cypriot Maronite Arabic, the dialects of Central Asia, Baghdad Jewish Arabic, and others. High surv (talk) 23:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)