Talk:Non-judicial punishment
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editThe citation needed on this page for "NJP'd" could be cleared up by rewording the sentence to read something like "received NJP" or if all that is needed is evidence of its use, there is a page on the USMC website where it is used in an official article: Marines, sailors handling their GTCC --Sean.richardson (talk) 06:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
The last episode of the TV show "Generation Kill" has a scene in which some of the marines are talking about punishment that has been given to two of the enlisted men in the company. Someone there says he's going to take it to "mast". So, it appears that sometimes in the marines, they use the Navy's term. Is this common enough to merit mention here? ChrisHibbert (talk) 19:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
-"Request Mast" is a completely unrelated procedure in the Marine Corps which has nothing to do with nonjudicial punishment. It is the right to demand that one's grievance (which may or may not involve conduct that could relate to nonjudicial punishment) heard by one's commanding officer, or any officer above them. Details here: http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marinereg/blmco1700-23e.htm. Since Request Mast does not implicitly have anything to do with Nonjudicial Punishment, I'm going to remove the line in question from the article.132.38.190.10 (talk) 19:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
"A servicemember can be denied applying for a commission if there is a nonjudicial punishment on record." - Does that statement really need to be included? A servicemember can be denied commission for bad proficiency and conduct scores as well. http://www.usmc.mil/almars/almar2000.nsf/0/8d7f2e8b8c28eed285256a55005e1518?OpenDocument
12:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Military Law
editOmits the fact that NJP records are military only and not-released to non-military agencies. In contrast Court Martial convictions are considered the same as civialian trial findings and are on a person's permanent record. NJP does not have same rules of evidence as Court Martial or Civilian Courts. In many cases a person with NJP charges presented has right to refuse NJP and request a court martial. For Navy a person assigned as a shipboard crew member does not have the right. Wfoj2 23:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Bread and water
editWhat the reasoning of only allowing it when the ship is at sea? 82.40.4.248 (talk) 17:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Which Offenses?
editFor which offenses can one be subject to NJP rather than automatically requiring a court-martial? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axeman (talk • contribs) 06:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
See prior section written by me. I don't think it is a matter of the offense - as to if a Court Martial or NJP. I think it is a matter of the officers/command/ evidence supports , which one is chosen. NJP is much less formal than a court martial as carried out, less involved, lesser maximum punishment. If not at sea, the accused has the right to request a court martial if they desire. Wfoj2 (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Merge of Mast (naval)
editI propose that Mast (naval) be merged in to this article. My reasoning and some discussion is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Captain's mast. Please continue the discussion here, not there. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:16, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge away; but make sure all the redirects are in place, and any likely new ones created. Thanks for all your hard work. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)