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editShould the Louisiana template be where it is in this article? → JarlaxleArtemis 00:07, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
At the bottom? I think so. Any reason why it should be elsewhere? Wondering, -- Infrogmation 03:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Um, "Suburbs"?
editHow are Marrero, Metarie, Gretna, etc considered "suburbs"? Surely there's a better word that more accurately describes the relationship of these communities to the City of New Orleans. When people hear "suburb" they think alternating rings of commercial and residential zones around the city, which is not what this is. Here, commerce and residences are mixed together (much like in the city of New Orleans) and these surrounding communities more resemble further expansion of the city than any suburbia.
When I lived in Metairie I thought of myself as living in the "suburbs". Metairie lacks the heavy industry common to New Orleans, Chalmette, Avondale and other areas. It is primarily residential. While there is commerce in Metairie, most of it is consumer retail related. I think the real indication that Metairie, at least, is a suburb is the direction and magnitude of rush hour traffic flow. Tall Girl 06:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Although we often have a certain view of what constitutes a "suburb," American geographers often define it as where workers commute into the city, but live outside city gov't. Therefore sparsely populated wilderness and former farmland in Conneticut are "suburbs," but so are heavily industrialized neighborhoods of northern New Jersey. Your traffic flow comparison is more apt than you may have thought. Cuvtixo (talk) 03:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
add a map?
editCan someone add a map to this article? Apollo58 21:25, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Yes Please! Especially for the East Bank/West Bank section. Its really hard to conceptualize this without a map of the river! Cuvtixo (talk) 03:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC) !
Seven, eight, or nine parishes?
editIt says 7 but lists 8. CalJW 06:22, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
- At the top, it says 9. JD 04:08, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
I added Tangipahoa to the list of parishes at the top of the article because there is residential development going on there related to people who moved from the city of New Orleans (and the South Shore suburbs) to the North Shore. However, I think including Washington Parish in the list of parishes included in Greater New Orleans is a bit of a stretch, though it is properly included in the description of the North Shore. Tall Girl 07:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- There are seven (7) parishes defined by the U.S. Census for the New Orleans–Metairie–Kenner metropolitan area. [1] I will now go and correct the information in the article. —RJN 22:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think a brief conversation about my reasons for including Tangipahoa Parish might have been in order before you reverted my change. I realize that the census has its definition, but the North Shore is a growing part of the Greater New Orleans area. Not including Tangipahoa parish means WP will be stuck in the year 2000 for another couple years until someone figures out that the Little Tchefuncte River didn't keep developers from building there. Just a thought.Tall Girl 01:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Since when has the census been the be-all-end-all source for metropolitian area definitions? The GNOCDC[2] includes Tangi, St. Tammany, Washington, the River Parishes, and the traditional Orleans, Jefferson, St. Bernard, Plaq. Secondly, the census definition refers to the "New Orleans–Metairie–Kenner metropolitan area" not the "Greater New Orleans Metro Area." I totally disagree with this edit and I think we should revert to the broader definition of the area or else explain the two competing defintions of the area. In addition, I've heard some commentary National Radio recently that Greater Baton Rouge and Greater New Orleans are on a path to merger because of Katrina. --Kunzite 03:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think there is a dispute over official government definitions and what the people from there count. Searching Google I found several non-governmental organizations which include Tangipahoa in "Greater New Orleans area". My bias is to use definitions locals use to define their region. So ... Tall Girl 05:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Since when has the census been the be-all-end-all source for metropolitian area definitions? The GNOCDC[2] includes Tangi, St. Tammany, Washington, the River Parishes, and the traditional Orleans, Jefferson, St. Bernard, Plaq. Secondly, the census definition refers to the "New Orleans–Metairie–Kenner metropolitan area" not the "Greater New Orleans Metro Area." I totally disagree with this edit and I think we should revert to the broader definition of the area or else explain the two competing defintions of the area. In addition, I've heard some commentary National Radio recently that Greater Baton Rouge and Greater New Orleans are on a path to merger because of Katrina. --Kunzite 03:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Washington Parish is included in the New Orleans-Metairie-Bogalusa Combined Statistical Area.[3] Tangipahoa and St.James Parishes are located between the New Orleans and Baton Rouge areas. However, I would not be surprised if these parishes are added to either one of those statistical areas. Lionheart1979 21:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC) Regional Planning Commissions do not make a area, look at the map next to the section that talks about the area. When people move out of this area they are leaving New Orleans, they (the evacuees) for the most part finally had the chance to leave that God forsaken city that should not have een built there in the first place. All the editors of all the articles on Louisiana should at least live in this area, but what happened is that a bunch of people from hundreds of miles away looked at what the Census bureau had to say and determined that we people that live 50-75 miles away live in New Orleans. Please reconsider your thoughts on what is part of what!208.54.14.95 (talk)Vesago78 —Preceding comment was added at 00:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
population figures
edithttp://www.nola.com/news/t-p/neworleans/index.ssf?/base/news-5/1142406498194440.xml
Requested move
editGreater New Orleans → New Orleans metropolitan area … Rationale: as the article starts off with the metro reference, is more consistent with other metro areas of the U.S. and is differentiated from the Greater New Orleans region. ACMe 21:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Katrina - Cat 4
editThis article says "The metropolitan area was hit by Hurricane Katrina—a Category 4 storm—in August 2005". Katrina was Category 3 when it made landfall - both at Buras and later at Waveland. It HAD been a Cat 5 out in the gulf the day before. Didn't want to make that change myself, but haven't heard that the weather service has changed its classification (as it sometimes does - they upgraded Andrew to a category five a few years after it hit south Florida). Ergonaut2001 17:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The Greater New Orleans Region
editThe New Orleans metropolitan area is actually designated by the State of Louisiana as The Greater New Orleans Region when identifying the different cultural areas of the state. I noticed at one time the page was called Greater New Orleans, but was redirected to this page. Actually, this page should be a redirect to Greater New Orleans.-- Avazina, (Talk to me) DEMs are morons. 14:36, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
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