Talk:New England Central Railroad/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 04:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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There are some areas that are thin in references. Would newspaper coverage also help beef this up in places? I sure wish IABot was running right now, too. 7-day hold to Trainsandotherthings. I do want to see some meat added to the bones here if that can be done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Copy changes

Lead

• The company was originally a subsidiary of holding company RailTex, before being purchased by RailAmerica in 2000. Remove comma

• Comma removed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• Alburgh, Vermont at the Canada–US border, needs a GEOCOMMA

  Comma added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

History

• first the Grand Trunk Railway, and from 1927 the Canadian National Railway (CN) I'd get rid of that comma

• Comma removed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• transition complete three days later completed?

  Fine by me. Changed as suggested. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• Within a year of NECR's takeover of the line declining traffic flow was reversed, Add comma after "line"

• Comma added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD GP38s although Add comma after GP38s

  Comma added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• six mile Hyphenate/use {{convert}}
• The Genesee & Wyoming ownership (2012–present) section has two paragraphs with no citations at all. This must be rectified.

  Ah, I see what happened. The P&W purchase is cited later, but I missed citing it at that location. Now addressed. I didn't rewrite this article as much as I usually do with my GANs, and that seems to be the source of most issues. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

  I feel that; it's happened to me with a handful of pages. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:56, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Operations

• Branches connect Essex Junction to Burlington, and White River Junction Remove this comma

  Removed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• Palmer, and serve Avoid this User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences CinS issue by change "and serve" to "serving"

  Changed as suggested. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• Palmer, Massachusetts serves GEOCOMMA

  Comma added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:07, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

• The New England Central Railroad started operations with 12 GP38 locomotives, and has exclusively operated Electro-Motive Diesel products since its founding. Remove comma (CinS)

  Comma removed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Passenger services

• on time performance On time should be hyphenated as adjective

  I've removed the sentence in question when I changed the source used, so this is now moot. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing and spot checks

Earwig turns up no issues other than a railfan site that seems to have taken our paragraphs and chopped some of them up for a summary of railroad history.

Five sources were chosen for spot checks:

• 2: Offline source in an RS.
• 9: This link is now dead, but archived. Start of $70m, ARIRA-funded speed improvements. Y
• 16: Source checks out. Since I'm not familiar, what makes this site reliable? I see "we"...was the original content ABOUTSELF?

  The source in question is an advocacy group for rail transportation in Vermont. The particular writing here was submitted by NECR, making it a valid instance of ABOUTSELF. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• 17: I don't see a mention of Northfield here, but I'm not a foamer. What makes this back up the assertion?

  This relates to the 2014 rerouting of the Vermonter from the NECR at Palmer to the Pan Am Railways line north of Springfield, Massachusetts. The PAR line north from Springfield meets the NECR in Northfield, though Pan Am has trackage rights to Brattleboro where there's a yard available for interchange. This alignment was previously used until 1989, when Pan Am (then known as Guilford) let the tracks deteriorate so badly they were unsafe for passenger trains. Using the NECR was an out of the way alignment and required the train to make a reverse move at Palmer, so with state and federal funding, the Pan Am line was improved and the Vermonter returned to that alignment. In any case, Solomon's 2020 article in Trains Magazine explicitly states the connection is in Northfield, so I've added it here as a second citation. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

• 18: Dead link. (I'm familiar with the topic having reviewed Ethan Allen Express, so this checks out, but another source link might be required.)

  I've replaced this with a citation that discusses the track repairs and improvements in detail. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:29, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Other items

• Four libre licensed images, but none have alt text.

  Alt text added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

• @Sammi Brie: Are there any areas in particular you are looking for more coverage? If you identify them I can narrow my searching. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:33, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

  I think the coverage has been improved enough at this point. With the other changes all made, I will be passing it. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:47, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.