Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Tennessee

Places I have had trouble finding....

The following are places on this list I was unable to find on my photographing excursions:

• Louis Bryant House, in Scott County. All I found at the coordinates listed was a large landfill. I drove up and down Bear Creek Road, but all I saw were commercial buildings and storage sheds. Toward the "end" of Bear Creek Road (I'm not sure it was still Bear Creek Rd.), there were two driveways with "No Trespassing" signs, one leading into a wooded area, the other to a house that didn't strike me as notable.

• Bowman House, in Loudon County. The coordinates place this right in the middle of a Tellico Village suburb, and thus it would be surrounded by dozens of modern lake houses. I drove all around the "Tanasi" subdivision, and drove to an adjacent peninsula to see if I could see it from across the lake. All of the houses looked very modern.

• Greenberry Wilson House, Cumberland County. This appears to be in the middle of a large farm south of Crossville. I couldn't find an "E. G. Wilson Road." I drove up a gravel road near Burke, but I only saw farm buildings in the direction of the coordinates listed.

Bms4880 (talk) 20:58, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Google shows an E.G. Wilson Road southeast of Burke, 35°46′7.2″N 85°0′41.6″W. Can't help you with the other two, however. Have you considered requesting the nomination forms from the NPS? They'll mail you the forms for free if you request them from nr_reference@nps.gov. Nyttend (talk) 04:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

LOL. In Scott County it sounds like you ventured into the kind of place where many of us would worry about getting shot, Bms4880.

In addition to Nyttend's suggestion of contacting NPS, you might try calling the Tennessee Historical Commission -- the nominations presumably passed through their hands, and they are far more likely than NPS to be able to provide advice on the whereabouts of these buildings. --Orlady (talk) 04:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

The Bowman house was built in 1828 and is associated with a person named George Bowman. There seem to have been a lot of Bowmans in Loudon County. I found a genealogy forum post and a website by a guy in Maryville who did some family history research on an 18th-century George Bowman whose progeny apparently ended up in Loudon County. Since the house was "east of Loudon on Little River Road" and was listed in 1970, it's plausible that it was destroyed or otherwise affected by the later creation of Tellico Lake (which, after all, was formed by damming the Little Tennessee River). --Orlady (talk) 04:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

As long as the No Trespassing signs are store-bought, as they were on Bear Creek, it's still safe, but when the scratchy, handwritten No Trespassing signs with misspelled words start to appear, it's time to turn around :) I wondered if the Bowman house had been affected by the reservoir construction (that would explain its early listing date), but an article I read in Loudon's newspaper last year implied the house was still standing. Likewise, this page implies the Bryant house is still standing north of Oneida. I'll e-mail THC, but they usually just repeat the info found on NRIS.

Re: the Bryant house: That page lists the owners as Robert and Norma Mabe. On the web I find a listing for them at 2338 Bear Creek Rd, Oneida, TN 37841-3817. Phone (423) 569-6060. (Maybe they would donate a photo to Wikipedia, even...) --Orlady (talk) 18:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Nyttend - I found E.G. Wilson Rd. on the map, but when driving through "Burke", I didn't see the "Valley Dr." that connects that road to the highway. I'll look again next time I'm in Crossville. Bms4880 (talk) 18:29, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the satellite images, I'm not convinced that E.G. Wilson Road actually exists, except possibly as a farm driveway. --Orlady (talk) 18:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Directions to 2338 Bear Creek Rd. basically lead to the house's NRHP coordinates. If you look at the satellite image, you can see the big landfill just up that side road on the right. Maybe they moved the house because of the landfill. I'll send the Mabes a letter and ask them to upload a photo or provide directions. Bms4880 (talk) 20:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Macon County

• Keystone School - I made four passes along the stretch of "Old Hwy 52" between the Alton Hill and Cedar Bluff intersections. There are two houses on either side of the road at the school's GPS coordinates, both very modern. I drove around the Gap-of-the-Ridge area, but I didn't see anything but old barns. Bms4880 (talk) 01:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

From the MPS document for Macon County schools [1], it sounds like Prospect School might have been a one-room schoolhouse. (See page 13 of the document.) Still, it sounds like it would be too large to miss completely. --Orlady (talk) 02:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Knox County

• Alexander Bishop House - both the street address and coordinates are in agreement as to the location, but I didn't see an old house of note. There was a house that looked old, but didn't look at all notable, and bears no resemblance to this house (assuming that's the Alexander Bishop house). Bms4880 (talk) 15:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, this is an occasion when it's useful to remember that not every property on the National Register is an architecturally distinctive landmark. Many are listed for other reasons. From the minimal info in the NRIS database, it seems that this house may date from earlier than 1800, which would mean that it could be pretty undistinguished in its appearance. The lat-long coordinates correspond to the big new house with a swimming pool in the back, but there are two houses just to its north on Bishop Road that look (from the Bing birds-eye view) to be pretty old. Did you take a photo of the house at number 7924?

Considering our almost complete lack of information about this house, it seems to me that the creation of Alexander Bishop House, apparently based solely on the database entry, was a bit premature. However, maybe Baxterguy (who created the article) knows something about the house. --Orlady (talk) 16:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Scratch some of that. I looked on the Knox County GIS[2], and discovered that 7924 Bishop Road is several houses north of the coordinate location in the Alexander Bishop House article. Specifically, it's the first house south of Tate Trotter Road (second house north of Mendonhall Estates Blvd), at the edge of the woods, and across the street from a wooded area. The Knox County list article had the same location as the GIS. I've changed the coordinates in the house article. --Orlady (talk) 16:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Correct. That's the location I used. The house on the right didn't look any older than the 1960s. The house on the left looked older, but it didn't really strike me as notable, and bears no resemblance to the house in the McClung Collection photo. I took this photograph of it [3]. Bms4880 (talk) 18:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Update: I asked "Dr. Knox" of Metropulse, and he answered thus. I will update the list and the house's article this afternoon. Bms4880 (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

What a wonderful response! :-) --Orlady (talk) 18:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• James Newman House - this house is located in a hollow, surrounded on all sides by hills, and accessible only by a narrow gravel road that is blocked with a gate and a sizeable "No Trespassing" sign. I tried following the fence along the opposite hillslope, but still couldn't see the house due to the trees.

• Maxwell-Kirby House - this house is apparently accessible by a faintly-visible gravel driveway from Northshore, which appeared to be off-limits to the public. I ventured up adjacent side streets, but couldn't see the house due to an abundance of trees.

• Alexander McMillan House - similar situation to the Maxwell-Kirby House, located off Strawberry Plains Pike at the end of a long, off-limits driveway, and surrounded by trees. It's kind-of visible from an adjacent side street, though surrounded by a fence. I was able to get part of the back and a little bit of the side, but this photograph is still insufficient for what is apparently the oldest house in the county. Bms4880 (talk) 02:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Blount County

• Russell-Lackey-Prater house - this house is located at the end of a long gravel driveway, which is blocked by a gate adorned with a "No Trespassing" sign. I drove to the boat landing on the opposite lakeshore, which offered a clean view of the area, but I still couldn't see the house.

• James Gillespie House - all that I found at this house's location (Lowes Ferry between Cactus Cove and that funky roundabout) were three large chimneys, a charred rear wall, and a pile of bricks and ashes. It appears the Gillispie House is no more. Bms4880 (talk) 16:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Something tells me that you would appreciate this column by Sam Venable. --Orlady (talk) 18:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

"Pony-dogs." I call them "cujos." A nasty one was guarding the McMillan house. I couldn't see it, I could just hear it woofing while I took the picture. Bms4880 (talk) 19:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Why can't the "Morgan Springs School", a one room school with out houses, built in 1928, be an historical site.

A stone plaque exist, many group pictures exist, Many Morgan family's are there. Genealogical books cover the Morgan's to 1700's, Walling's to the 1500's. Morgan Springs, historical sulfur water. Many other related events, The "Dayton Strawberry Parade" began with the Romines berry farm, just across the road. Thank You Charles T. Morgan 255 Morgan Springs Road Dayton TN. 37321

Contact the Tennessee Historical Commission to find out how to nominate a site for the National Register. --Orlady (talk) 03:32, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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