Talk:National Football League Players Association

Still up to FA quality?

I just removed two statements from this article that failed to verify, one of which for that matter contained racially loaded language. Looking at the rest of the article, I'm seeing factual errors (the Eighth's ruling in 2011 didn't really "affirm[ ] the legitimacy of the lockout"), out-of-date information (subsequent Smith terms [1] [2]), and style issues ("Court of Appeals" is the wrong link), and that's just at a glance. At present this is not up to the standard of a featured article, in my opinion. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 02:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh and the concussion protocols aren't mentioned once, despite being one of the things the Smith-era NFLPA is best known for. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 02:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 29 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 18:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

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National Football League Players Association → NFL Players Association – Following consensus at Talk:National Football League#Requested move 3 March 2024 and the fact that the common name of the NFLPA is "NFL Players Association". « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:54, 29 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Lightoil (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Note that this affects Category:National Football League Players Association and related subcategories. 162 etc. (talk) 17:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose. I've seen it spelled out enough times, in sources which normally abbreviate NFL, to make me think it isn't necessarily the common name. O.N.R. ^(talk) 21:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
• Slight Oppose, this is the full name of the association, although its logo uses the initials NFL. The short name could also be surmised as NFLPA, which is used by the group itself and many of the sources. Randy Kryn (talk) 06:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
• Support A search for nflpa, plus a Ctrl+F for players association, shows most uses with the half-abbreviated title. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom, you can’t beat WP:CONSENSUS. - DS537(WIR) 15:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Are you implying that there was an existing consensus to move this article? Graham (talk) 04:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. "National Football League Players Association" is the official name of the labor union. Cfls (talk) 22:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Hi Cfls I urge you to reconsider if that is the reason for your oppose. The official name of America's civilian space agency is the National Aeronatics and Space Administration, yet our Wikipedia article is titled NASA because that is its common name. WP policy overrules legal names when entities are known by different, more common names. In this case, NFL Players Association is clearly more common than having NFL spelt out. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject National Football League and WikiProject Organized Labour have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 14:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The expanded "National Football League Players Association" is consistent with MOS:ACROTITLE and its Central Intelligence Agency example (...in view of arguments that the full name is used in professional and academic publications). This is similiar to National Football League being the page title, and NFL being a redirect. For examples of the full expansion:
  • "The National Football League Players Association announced Wednesday that Lloyd Howell was elected by the board of player representatives as their new executive director of the NFLPA." (USA Today)
  • "The National Football League Players Association reached an agreement with the league on Thursday to preserve the disability benefits of hundreds of former players three months before those players were set to lose thousands of dollars a month in payments." (The New York Times)
  • "We thought you might have some questions about what's in it. Thanks to a copy of the memo the National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) sent to its members, we have some answers" (ESPN)—Bagumba (talk) 15:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Support: It's typically referred to as the NFL Player's Association or NFLPA. The long name is not what I'd consider to be the WP:COMMONNAME in this situation. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relist, to allow time for editors to provide evidence for the arguments as to what the WP:COMMONNAME is BilledMammal (talk) 06:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose – This article is not analogous to the articles moved in the other RM as "National Football League" is being used here as part of a proper name. And use of the partially abbreviated name isn't substantially more common than use of the full name (see, e.g., this ngram). Graham (talk) 06:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Membership graphs

I've removed the article's graphs for now until the extension is fixed. The code is below. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 18:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Total membership (US records)

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Finances (US records; ×$1000)

     Assets      Liabilities      Receipts      Disbursements

Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 18:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)