Talk:National Film Awards

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Started this article and other articles associated with it a while back. Adding to it slowly. If you have any info don't hesitate to add it here. :) Kinda working with a template for each award's article. Want to stick to it. :) Thanking you... Cookie90 19:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Too many links...

You are going to need all the help with the number of links you have created!! good luck! hydkat 13:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

added by 219.65.49.149

<begin> One thing missing in yourlist of National Film Awards (section) India is the Best Film Critic Award. There are two awards in writing on cinema. One of this is for Best Film Critic and one is for the Best Book on Cinema. I won both awards - the first one in 1991 and the second one (jointly) in 2003. It is awarded in all languages recognized by the Indian constitution and is sometimes accompanied by "commendations" <end>

please feel free to check and add correctly.. --ti 22:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

New Style

User:Utcursch has done very hard work on the pages of NFA and changed their style, but I must have disagreed with these edits. In my opinion, the previous version was way better. Apart from it, these new tables are suitable more for filmographies rather than for award pages. The names should remain bold and slanted, whilst the yellow titles in the table are quite good. My main problem is that the new tables are a bit non-notable when they look like this. Best regards, --Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Awards in various languages

I have moved the awards for best film in Konkani and Manipuri to the group 'Languages included in [schedule of the constitution]'.

I have also added links for best film in Bhojpuri, Monpa, and Tulu as awards have been given to :

• Best feature Film in BHOJPURI: KAB HOI GAWNA HAMAR at the 53rd awards
• Best feature Film in MONPA: SONAM at the 53rd awards
• Best feature Film in Tulu: Kotti channaya —Preceding unsigned comment added by Denzil Simoes (talk • contribs) 06:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Ppwrong

Ppwrong's editing is most disruptive. Rashtrapati Award is a completely different award which is given individually. Directorate of Film Festivals did not even exist in the 1960s, it was established in 1973. Everything he adds is completely untrue, unless reliable sources can be cited to prove it. Everything is very clearly written in a book called "Working Group on National Film Policy". Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion to add an image in infobox

I am suggesting to add an image in infobox. --Tito Dutta (Talk) 03:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Records

Any records? Like maximum wins, youngest winner, oldest winner, posthumous wins, wins for debut performance, etc..... -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 20:05, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Discontinued awards

There are some of the awards which were discontinued over the period of time. Some of them were instituted but was not given consistently and then eventually were discontinued e.g. Best Filmstrip (11th National Film Awards) was given only once. Best Newsreel Cameraman was instituted in 1975 and then discontinued in 1983 by awarding only 5 times. Do we need to create separate articles for these discontinued awards or shall we club them together if the award count is less?

Moreover, for the Best Feature Film in each of the languages other than those specified in schedule VIII of the constitution, it has been observed that these are also awarded very inconsistently. e.g. Korborok, Bhojpuri, Gujarati, Kashmiri, Khasi, Bodo, Urdu, Kodava, Tulu, Konkani, Bhojpuri, Monpa, Korborok and Dogri. Shall we create separate pages for each of these language films? Thanks. - Vivvt^Talk 06:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

On going discussion here. Thanks. - Vivvt^Talk 00:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Incorrectly formatted primary topic proposal and although Dharmadhyaksha makes a decent fist of it below, there's no consensus that the Indian National Film Awards are the primary topic. No prejudice against a new multi-move that clearly states a primary topic proposal. Jenks24 (talk) 14:55, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

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National Film Awards (India) → National Film Awards – Per WP:COMMONNAME. National Film Awards 672K vs National Film Awards (India) 31.8K - Vivvt (Talk) 21:41, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Comment, I don't think common name applies here, '(India)' is used to disambiguate between the others listed at National Film Awards. -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 23:55, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oscars redirects to Academy Awards and there is a separate disambiguation page for Oscar. Similar but not exact pattern should be followed here. - Vivvt (Talk) 15:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose - Malformed request National Film Awards would have to move to National Film Awards (disambiguation), no advantage. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:12, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose this article is already residing at the common name proposed. The diambiguator is not part of common name considerations. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
• Strong oppose – The nominator should have read WP:COMMONAME and WP:D. —Vensatry _(ping) 16:40, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Why is the oppose "strong"? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:57, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Because the proposal looks so ridiculous, at least to me. —Vensatry _(ping) 17:10, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

• Support move per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. While other awards of same name are conferred by other countries too, the basic and most common award when called for as "National Film Awards" is the one given in India. Google search results of "National Film Awards" -Wikipedia gives for many pages results which are related only to the awards given in India. In fact, its tough to even find info about other countries NFAs without adding the country's name in search. This clearly is the primary topic. A disambiguation page can stay at National Film Awards (disambiguation). §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:58, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

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Requested moves 2

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Calidum ^{Talk To Me} 18:07, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

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• National Film Awards (India) → National Film Awards
• National Film Awards → National Film Awards (disambiguation)

– Move per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. While other awards of same name are conferred by other countries too, the basic and most common award when called for as "National Film Awards" is the one given in India. Google search results of "National Film Awards" -Wikipedia gives for many pages results which are related only to the awards given in India. In fact, its tough to even find info about other countries NFAs without adding the country's name in search. The Indian award is clearly the primary topic and should hence be moved such. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 11:19, 31 July 2014 (UTC) §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 08:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose as above. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:23, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Above you say that NFA would have to move to NFA(d). That's also proposed here. So whats the oppose about? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 08:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: am not sure what you meant. Hence pinging you. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Just "no advantage" that's all. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

So that's a reason to oppose every PRIMARYTOPIC nominee. And what's the disadvantage? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:06, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

• Support per my previous proposal. - Vivvt (Talk) 14:08, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:PRECISE. I am not sure why nominator thinks current title is ambiguous. Rameshnta909 (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't think its ambiguous. In fact am proposing to make it ambiguous because its an exception covered in WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 03:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose. Far too generic not to specify the country. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:57, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

But does it fail PRIMARYTOPIC criteria? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:52, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

• Support Many such examples (not specifying country). Football League & Football League (Greece), National Football League & National Football League (disambiguation), Institute of Medicine & Institute of Medicine, Nepal and many more. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 07:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support As the primary topic. The Nepalese and Bangladeshi articles are little more than stubs, with the Nepalese one just stating it exists. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 16:29, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose. It's not clear to me that the India article is the primary topic. Better to keep the disambiguation. Fortdj33 (talk) 12:12, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose. What makes Indian national awards the primary topic? None of these awards are internationally recognized and are not known outside the respective country. And someone pointed out that the Nepalese and Bangla articles are little more than stubs. But I doubt whether that is a criterion to choose the primary topic. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 14:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose. Ambiguous. Begs "which nation". --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:33, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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• @Fortdj33: So how do I clarify it? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:34, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
  • It appears that there was no consensus to change it, therefore I would leave it as it is. Fortdj33 (talk) 14:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
    • A "no consensus" is different from "no move". I would like to know what more is required so the next move request can be thought about accordingly. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
    • I suggest that you take at least two months to compose a fresh nomination that reviews the previous failed RMs. Also, I think that the discussion was closer to a "consensus to not move" than to a straight "no consensus". --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:10, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Sure! Am in no rush. But even two years won't be useful if what's needed is not stated. Hence the question to Fortdj33 and maybe you too. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

What's needed, my opinion, is persuasive argument beyond WP:UCN, aka "COMMONNAME", as this policy section does not address the need nor contents of appended parenthetical disambiguation. My opinion is that "(India)" is needed, but that the need has nothing to do with how sources (in India) refer to the topic. Perhaps look at how reliable secondary sources published far outside India refer to this topic. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Okay thanks! Will hunt accordingly. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

• No need to move the title of the article. It is precise and clear this way. Rameshnta909 (talk) 07:15, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 12 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. SSTflyer 02:37, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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National Film Awards (India) → National Film Awards – National_Film_Awards_(Bangladesh) – Filpro (talk) 01:53, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

@Filpro:This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

• As per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and Page view statistics show that far majority of users looking for National Film Awards are looking for the Indian one. – Filpro (talk) 01:53, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
• There are national film or movie awards in many countries. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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