Talk:Nadine Dorries

Latest comment: 10 months ago by Martinevans123 in topic Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2024

Still an MP

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she is still an MP even though she has sent her resignation to the PM, she will cease to be an MP when she is appointed to an office that is incompatible with Parliament Jord656 (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

I really should get out more, but I've been checking the London Gazette every day waiting for the official publication. It's finally arrived today at half past two. I've added the reference to the article.Seaweed (talk) 16:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

stating number of days between announcing resignation and officially resigning

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Hi User:DeFacto, you have reverted my addition of the number of days between announcing resignation and officially resigning while claiming WP:UNDUE. Why? I can't see how this applies. The dates are there so all I have done is added clarity of the length of time. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 10:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Gaia Octavia Agrippa, What value do you think repeating that delay at every opportunity adds to the article? Shouldn't we also add the reason for the delay each time we mention the delay? -- DeFacto (talk). 11:04, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
It was once in the intro (where we tend to repeat details from the main body) and once in the body of the text. The addition of the number of days to the intro adds clarity and is accompanied by the reasons for the delay in the same paragraph. In the main body, there are five paragraphs between the paragraph that mentions her "with immediate effect" and the paragraph in which it states "explicitly signified her resignation as an MP". The addition of a day count between these two dates adds clarity and would be appreciated by readers who then don't have to scroll back up or to work out the time span for themselves. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 11:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
I still think it's undue though, in the sense that it unduly emphasises the delay, giving more detail than is necessary, acceptable, or reasonable. -- DeFacto (talk). 12:10, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
The length of delay is frequently stressed in reliable sources: BBC "In August, the former culture secretary resigned from the Commons, more than two months after pledging to go "with immediate effect"; The Times "Her drawn-out resignation, which lasted from early June when she first pledged to leave the Commons, until late August, when she finally did so"; AP News "British Conservative lawmaker Nadine Dorries stepped down from the House of Commons on Saturday, more than two months after announcing she was quitting"; The Guardian "in letter sent 11 weeks after she said she would stand down [...] Two-and-a-half months after first announcing her intention to step down as MP". Its even stressed at the likes of GB News "Dorries resigned from the Commons on Saturday, over two months after she pledged to go "with immediate effect"".
The delay is in its self notable, and stating the amount of days (once in the intro and once in the main text) is not at all an "more detail than is necessary, acceptable, or reasonable". Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 20:37, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2024

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PLEASE REMOVE THE TITLE Rt Honorable from her page as she is no longer a member of parliament. Your information on her is therefore inaccurate.

Thank you 31.94.57.36 (talk) 13:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: Although I couldn't find the relevant policy, it seems that these titles are kept by convention even after the subject has left office or died. See Boris Johnson and Winston Churchill for examples. Liu1126 (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Right Honourable says this (emphasis added): "The Privy Council is notionally the body of formal advisors to the sovereign. Members of the Cabinet, senior politicians, and some few other officials are appointed as members for life, and are personally entitled to be styled Right Honourable thereafter." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply