Talk:Morrie Arnovich/GA1

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 16:07, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply


  • "Arnovich played in the Major League Baseball between 1936 and 1946" - drop the "the". Pretty much never used when referring to the MLB
  • "Playing as an outfielder and line drive hitter he" - recommend rephrasing, as you're not comparing two like things. An outfielder is a position, while a line driver hitter is a style of play
  • "In 1936, he hit .327 with 19 home runs and 109 runs batted in (RBI)." - Clarify that these are his minor league stats for the year
  • For the above, the slightly different url [1] appears to be the one you want for the source, as that url supports the minor league stats, but I'm not seeing that in the currently cited b-ref url.
  • "He tied for the league lead in home runs and was one RBI from the best in the league" - where is this in the ref? Couldn't find it but I may have missed it
  • "He played his first matches in Major League Baseball, where he made .313 batting average over 13 games" - the word "matches" isn't used for American baseball
  • "He played his first matches in Major League Baseball, where he made .313 batting average over 13 games" - recommend making it a little clearer when in the season he transitioned to the majors, as the minors-majors transition isn't very clear
  • "a third of all outfielders in the league" - I'm struggling to find where this is in the source, and that the league only had 54 outfield assists in the season seems a bit implausible
  • "He also led all Northern League left fielders in double plays, with five, and in range factor/game, at 2.58" - I am highly confused by this sentence. It's after the 1938 season, but he didn't play in the Northern League then. Also not seeing where b-ref supports the league leading - the site usually puts league-leading numbers in bold type, but I'm not seeing any bolded numbers in that section for Arnovich. Also a bit confused on the numbers - bref shows the 5 double plays as being for 1937, and it has a range factor of 2.59 for him for 1938.
  • "He also led all Northern League left fielders in putouts, with 314, and in range factor/game, at 2.47.[1] He made the Northern League All-Star team in his best season, 18th in the MVP voting" - Again, the Phillies weren't in the Northern League
  • "He also led all Northern League left fielders in putouts, with 314, and in range factor/game, at 2.47" - I have b-ref open, and it's showing 335 and 2.61?
  • "though he continued to hit for solid contact (.284);" - indicate that this .284 number is for his time with the Reds only (he hit .199 with the Phillies and .250 total for 1940, per b-ref)
  • "and his lack of power was not good for an outfielder." - This is true, but you need a source other than just a stats table to back this up
  • "and had a .280 batting average in 85 games" - specify that this is for the 1941 season
  • Clarify when he entered the US Army
  • "He made his only World Series appearance that season" - you can also add that his team won, and that Arnovich went 0-1 and only appeared in one game per [2].
  • "In 2010 he was ranked ninth in career batting average among Jewish major league baseball players of all-time.[12]" - recommend removing, as this is a rather old statistic, unless you can find a newer update of this.
  • Can we get page numbers for the book sources?
  • It seems to me that the main part is a bit stats-heavy and narrative light. (although that's sometime unavoidable, see Brooks Pounders, my last baseball bio GA, which has that problem unavoidable). The SABR bio has some stuff that could help. For instance, it says that he had seven straight hits in 1937 (which is quite the accomplishment). It also gives some more details about his All Star honor and some drama related to it, gives the amount of cash he was sold to the Giants for, etc.
  • "Arnovich is buried in the Hebrew Cemetery in Superior, Wisconsin" - this is the exact same wording as the SABR source
  • "It was reported in the Superior Evening Telegram in 1949 that Arnovich, who had managed in the Cubs minor league organization, had signed on as a referee in the new National Basketball Association" - cited to the SABR source, but only the managing in the Cubs system is supported by the source
  • Exact dates of first and last major league appearances are present and uncited in the infobox, but do not appear in the text
  • in the lead, specify the year he was an All Star
  • A couple of the categories currently fail WP:CATV, as the Selma and Hutchinson categories aren't supported by the text
  • Link Johnny Rizzo
  • " The Big Book of Jewish Sports Heroes: An Illustrated Compendium of Sports History and The 150 Greatest Jewish Sports Stars. SP Books. 2007. ISBN 9781561719075. Archived from the original on January 25, 2021. Retrieved February 16, 2011." - needs the author

A decent bit of work here to do, but a good start on this. Hog Farm Talk 05:38, 26 August 2021 (UTC)Reply