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Possible sources for update
edit- "MNLF undergoes leadership change". GMANews.tv. 2008-04-04. Retrieved 2008-04-13.
Fair scope
editDue to sensitivity of this article, it is suggest that qualified Wikipedian-who is either from Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao or is Muslim-should be able to give fair and impartial editing on this scope. Dmaestoso DRC 07:03, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
It is suggested that more citation be added and some parts edited that the article may not be based on opinions but on facts.It is also suggested that some parts of this article be edited to prove unbiased and neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.66.146 (talk) 10:41, 20 August 2011 (UTC) Link to reference 10 is not active.
10/7/2011. COMMENT: Please excuse me User Dmaestoso and User Nameless. I appreciate your predicament. But please straighten out your imagination. The ARMM is just a very small fraction of the entire territory of Mindanao, Sulu, and Palawan (MinSuPala). Muslims compose less than 30 percent of the MNLF members. Now, what is the knowledgeable basis of your suggestion that "qualified Wikipedian-who is either from Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao or is Muslim-should be able to give fair and impartial editing on this scope"? The information herein are facts and accurate at the time of writing. The problem with this article right now is that some references were "systematically" shut down by nobody knows who. Somebody did not like the continuous publicity of the following references: (1) Philippines as 2nd least attractive investment portfolio in ASEAN, The Manila Times, March 2011; (2) Some in AFP, PNP like Roman soldiers: Brutal torturers; and (3) AFP Torture Training. My Name is John Petalcorin, Director for Advocacy Communication of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petalcorin (talk) 06:50, 16 May 2014 (UTC)Petalcorin (talk • contribs) 01:21, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Even if there are various legitimate sources in this article, you can still see with the tones of the article that it's very much biased. e.g. "The MNLF struggled against the Philippine Government (GPH) to achieve independence," is linked to a speech made by Mr. Nur Misuari -- There are various websites that are written by third party journalists we can find thru search engines, like this one. At least we know that the MNLF is struggling against the Philippine government due to the issues in the country, especially in Mindanao -- considering the corruption of the government officials, poverty and such, still it's written in a neutral tone (you can even still see that the writer has his sympathy towards the Bangsamoro people). There's no problem with an MNLF member or a loyalist of the Philippine government, or even a third party observant to write or complete the article, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, Mr. Petalcorin; but please remember that this isn't the propaganda website of MNLF or the Philippine government. :)
Try taking it in an opposite way (below is only an example); both statements are similar but one looks more biased:
- The Philippine government is actively in campaign to put down all MNLF members due to the latter's opposing ideas.
- The Philippine government and the MNLF are currently in a dispute due to opposing ideas.
Copyright
editMuch of this article has been copied and pasted from this blog. (See Copyvios report) While that blog indicates that "FREE COPYRIGHT NOTE: The author grants unconditional authority to anyone to copy and paste phrase or sentences found in this article (John Remollo Petalcorin, January 2011).", this is not a release compatible with Wikipedia's licensing requirements. Content imported to Wikipedia must not only allow duplication, but modification. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for the terms required and the recommended license.
Until a compatible license is secured, this content cannot be published on Wikipedia. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:34, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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COI issue
editA major contributor of this article is User:Petalcorin, who is politically affiliated with the MNLP and Director for Advocacy of the MFLP (according to his own userpage). I am not familiar with the full handling of WP:COI issues, but a check of this article might be necessary. 62.107.193.64 (talk) 23:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
A further issue is that own userpage is self-citing the blog he runs as "Director for Advocacy of the MNLF" - so the source of info for most of this article is suspect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.26.198.126 (talk) 08:19, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
World Mathaba Organization
editGaddafi used his World Mathaba Organization to support various revolutionary separatist groups
Hasan di Tiro helped Mathaba and Gaddafi support the Free Papua Movement of Jacob Prai, the Kanak faction in New Caledonia, the South Maluku Separatists, and the Moro National Liberation Front led by Nur Misuari in the Philippines.
Republic of South Maluku Revolutionary Front for an Independent East Timor Papua conflict Free Papua Movement Moro insurgency in the Philippines Kanak and Socialist National Liberation Front
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Libyan+terrorism:+the+case+against+Gaddafi.-a014151801
the time, the Libyan government was reportedly providing military or other support to the East Timor Liberation Movement, the Kanak Socialist National Liberation Front (New Caledonia), and the Free Papua Movement (Irian Jaya) as well as to Muslim guerrillas in the Philippines.
Title Pacific Islands Monthly, Volume 59 Publisher Pacific Publications., 1988 Original from the University of Michigan Digitized Sep 15, 2008
Page 18
COLONEL GADDAFI'S shadowy international revolutionary organisation Mathaba, established in the Libyan capital of Tripoli and dispensing funds to liberation movements around the world, is run by a most unlikely radical. Tunku Mohammed Hassan di Tiro, a Sumatran prince, fervent Muslim and bitter opponent of Indonesia, is the chairman of Mathaba's political committee.... Hassan di Tiro himself makes the crucial decisions, and runs a personal network of contacts with the liberation movement leaders Libya supports, among them Jacob Prai of the OPM (Free Papua Movement) of West Papua and Yann Ce- tene Uregei of New Caledonia's Kanak radical faction,
In an exclusive interview with Pacific Islands Monthly, at his headquarters in Tripoli, he outlined Mathaba's organisation and aims for the Asia Pacific region. The Mathaba Against Imperialism, Racism, Zionism and Fascism, to give the front its
the various independence movements active across the Indonesian Archipelago, including his own Aceh Sumatra Liberation Front. "We are making advances against Indonesia, both on the ground and diplomatically, with Fretilin (East Timor Liberation Front), the OPM, the Republic of the South Moluccas; we are all one.
Title Pacific Islands Monthly: PIM., Volume 59, Issues 1-10 Publisher Pacific Publications, 1988 Original from the University of Virginia Digitized Apr 8, 2009
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,964515,00.html
Page 120
In the past year Gaddafi's agents have offered arms and cash to rebels in Papua New Guinea, encouraged an aboriginal separatist movement in Australia, shipped weapons to dissidents in New Caledonia and tried to open an office in the
Other information on Mathaba
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/messagestick/stories/s1104740.htm
http://overland.org.au/2013/10/michael-mansell-australian-of-the-year/
http://www.examiner.com.au/story/470288/gaddafi-loses-touch-with-people-mansell/
http://books.google.com/books?id=a9ppOE30u8EC&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=AY-gZEaijmsC&pg=PA249#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,964515,00.html
Kanak and Socialist National Liberation Front
http://books.google.com/books?id=aVcG7EkuPgAC&pg=PA345#v=onepage&q&f=false
Page 18
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Libyan+terrorism:+the+case+against+Gaddafi.-a014151801
Libyan mediated negotiations
editMNLF
edithttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6559853.stm
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/479955/milf-mnlf-agree-mindanao-should-be-pork-free
Origin and history
https://vkb.isvg.org/Wiki/Groups/Moro_National_Liberation_Front_(MNLF)
https://vkb.isvg.org/Wiki/Groups/Misuari_Breakaway_Group
http://www.stanford.edu/group/mappingmilitants/cgi-bin/groups/view/309
http://www.fofweb.com/History/MainPrintPage.asp?iPin=ENI390&DataType=WorldHistory&WinType=Free
http://www.seasite.niu.edu/Tagalog/Modules/Modules/Separatist_Groups/rebel_and_separatist_groups.htm
Nur Misuari and his MNLF has been accused of being Marxist, especially by rivals in the MILF, but he denied it, only saying he was friends with the NPA leaders (Philippine Communist Insurgents), his ideology is nationalism based on Muslim identity.
http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnist/mnlf-s-mysterious-arrogant-leadership-1.242501
http://www.maranao.com/bangsamoro/0803-frmtion_of_lbrtion_frnts.htm
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-inbox/ex-mnlf-rebels-wage-different-war-siocon-013228873.html
Documents on Nur Misuari
MNLF women involved in peace process, and Misuari's wives
editMisuari's wives are descended from Sulu Sultanate royalty and claim inheritance in Sabah.
http://www.mindanews.com/mindaviews/2013/02/24/commentary-the-sabah-standoff/
https://twitter.com/jamelaaisha/status/305719949920452608
http://manilamail.com/archive/feb2013/13feb24.html
http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2013/02/24/912503/if-malaysia-offers-raise-sabah-rent
http://www.thedailyguardian.net/index.php/iloilo-opinion/25207-going-bananas-over-sabah
http://afrim.org.ph/newafrim/tag/helped
http://afrim.org.ph/newafrim/2014/04/09/the-women-in-the-bangsamoro-peace-process-history.html
http://www.mindanews.com/top-stories/2008/03/29/moro-women-second-to-none/
http://philippineculture.ph/filer/chapter+18.pdf
http://www.morobloggers.com/category/lahad-datu/ http://www.morobloggers.com/2013/02/commentary-the-sabah-standoff/
http://suluism.blogspot.com/2013_02_01_archive.html http://suluism.blogspot.com/2013/02/if-malaysia-offers-to-raise-sabah-rent.html
http://obitir.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/padjak-rent-or-cession/ http://obitir.wordpress.com/page/42/
http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=Opinion&title=The-Sabah-standoff&id=66240
http://www.philstar.com/nation/2013/10/19/1246758/duterte-dont-touch-nurs-wife
http://www.iscenetv.com/fatima-celia-kiram-also-wife-of-nur-misuari/
MNLF position on Sabah
edithttp://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/09/09/1188941/mnlf-mobilizes-tausug-fighters-malaysia
http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/mnlf-supports-sulu-claim-says-nur-misuari-faction-9877
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/02/18/13/misuari-bangsamoro-has-claims-over-sabah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3LQ17HtPdY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWhlRZs0Xs
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2013/03/201331421944766446.html
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/06/26/us-nur-misuari-link-in-sulu-attack/
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/59100/exclusive--misuari-stakes-familys-claim-to-sabah
http://www.theborneopost.com/2013/03/21/milf-refutes-nur-misuaris-claim-over-sabah/
http://mnlfnet.com/Mahathir%20Arroyo%20to%20be%20accused%20of%20hijacking.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Bangsamoro%20people%20may%20sue%20Malaysian%20premier.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Philippine%20n%20Malaysian%20Colonialism.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/SSNB%20Pressl%20Statementl_03Aprilr2013.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_11May2013_After%20GE13,%20Is%20There%20Peace%20in%20Sabah.htm
independence
edithttp://manilastandardtoday.com/mobile/2013/07/29/govt-clarifies-mnlf-deal-misuari-vows-to-secede
http://manilastandardtoday.com/mobile/2013/08/03/kiram-sultanate-areas-not-part-of-bangsamoro
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_23Aug2013_Bangsamoro%20Constitution.htm
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/08/16/1097101/mnlf-returns-rebellion
http://manilastandardtoday.com/mobile/2013/08/18/mnlf-to-govt-no-more-talk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24012348
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24012747
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/filipino-rebels-storm-villages-take-hostages
http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/philippines-stand-forces-thousands-flee-city/
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/09/2013990014907480.html
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/09/201391275337108862.html
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/asia/philippine-conflicts-collateral-damage
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/philippine-rebelscallforforeignmediation.html
post Zamboanga battle
edithttp://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Editorial_17Dec2011_Call%20for%20Bangsamoro%20Unity%20&%20Martyrdom.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Editorial_12Sept2013_Aquino%20Govt%20Have%20No%20Respect.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Questions_&_Answers_22Sept2013_On%20the%20Zambo%20Siege.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_05Oct2013_Burning%20of%20Zambo%2010,000%20Houses.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_19Nov2013_An%20Open%20Letter%20to%20Pres%20Aquino,%20Etc.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/OIC%20Asks%20MNLF%20and%20PGH%20to%20Continue%20Peace%20Process.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Chairman's%20Message%2046th%20Bansamoro%20Freedom%20Day.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Chairman's%20Message%20Eid%20Fitr%202013.htm
Habier Malik
edithttp://manilastandardtoday.com/2014/01/03/nur-camp-confirms-haber-malik-s-death
http://dzrhnews.com/mnlf-confirms-maliks-death/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24044332
BIFF
edithttp://newsinfo.inquirer.net/475047/mnlf-biff-joining-forces-to-push-own-moro-independence-says-milf
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/68736/mnlf-biff-broach-possibility-of-alliance
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/475047/mnlf-biff-joining-forces-to-push-own-moro-independence-says-milf
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/70582/military-in-central-mindanao-on-alert
http://www.rappler.com/nation/38738-north-cotabato-biff-warning-attacks
Indonesia support for Philippines
editIndonesia has supported the Philippines in its quest to join the OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference)
http://bangsamoro.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/philippines-denied-observer-status-in-oic/
http://www.arabnews.com/node/220529
http://opapp.gov.ph/milf/news/indonesia-joins-imt
http://khabarsoutheastasia.com/en_GB/articles/apwi/articles/features/2013/07/19/feature-03
http://www.islamtoday.com/showme2.cfm?cat_id=38&sub_cat_id=2224
http://opapp.gov.ph/milf/news/indonesia-joins-imt
http://khabarsoutheastasia.com/en_GB/articles/apwi/articles/features/2013/07/19/feature-03
MNLF leader Nur Misuari has accused Indonesia of helping the Philippines block Moro independence.
http://manilatimes.net/misuari-defers-fight-for-republik/24891/
http://www.manilatimes.net/misuari-defers-fight-for-republik/24891/
http://www.mindanaoexaminer.com/news.php?news_id=20130730014316
MNLF position and relation to other seperatist movements
edithttp://mnlfnet.com/Who_s_afraid_Mindanao_Independence.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Is_ethnic_cleansing_possible.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Books/Books%20Featured.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Speech%20OIC_29th_ICFM%20Khartoum%20June%202002.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Statement%20Transcript%20OIC%20ComSix%20KL%2028June2000.htm
Nur Misuari hailed Indonesia and East Timor for bringing an end to their conflict and bringing independence to East Timor.
http://mnlfnet.com/Speech%20Tripartite%20Meeting%20(OIC).htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Speech%20CA%20Zambo.htm
Colonel Gaddafi's (Qaddafi, Khadaffy, Qadaffi) support to the Moros
http://mnlfnet.com/The_Final.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_14July2013_America%20Condemn-Part%20IV.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/OIC/28th%20ICFM%20Res'n%20on%20Muslims%20in%20Philippines_HTML.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/OIC/25th_ICFM_Resolution.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/OIC/9th_Summit_Resolution.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Merdeka-Jabidah.htm
We shouldn't use the "terrorism" label because its POV and the MNLF I believe is recognized as a legitimate actor by the Philippine state itself.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Libyan+terrorism:+the+case+against+Gaddafi.-a014151801
http://www.manilatimes.net/4000-milf-troops-join-mnlf/88364/
Page 9
http://www.thephilippinetribune.com/uploads/Issue_04-10-2014.pdf
https://www.facebook.com/Nur.P.Misuari/posts/726505984059818?stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/MoroMuslimsDefenders/posts/850691334957913?stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/IslamicPhilippinesball/posts/393980524077458?stream_ref=10
MNLF POV sources
edithttp://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_19May2013_America%20Condemn-Part%20I.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_23May2013_America%20Condemn-Part%20II.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_25May2013_America%20Condemn-Part%20III.htm
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_14July2013_America%20Condemn-Part%20IV.htm
Battle of Jolo
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/Editorial_07Feb2013_Revisiting%20the%20Feb%207%20Burning%20of%20Jolo.htm
http://philippineupdate.com/Books4Jolo.pdf
http://books.google.com/books?id=pnCC-nQBlnEC&pg=PA78#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.deanandkingsprfirm.com/3/category/mnlf%20burning%20of%20jolo/1.html http://thepinoyweekly.com/?p=12395 http://www.interaksyon.com/article/45492/no-war-from-mnlf-over-govt-pact-with-milf---nur http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl112165.htm http://www.deanandkingsprfirm.com/3/post/2012/10/hot-news-rebel-group-mnlf-chair-misuari-assures-no-war-in-mindanao.html
http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_09Nov2012_Why%20Bangsamoro,Not%20Filipino.htm
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17038024
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17038024
http://www.bulatlat.com/archive2/042nur.html
http://www.ucdp.uu.se/gpdatabase/gpcountry.php?id=127#
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2011/10/2011104145947651645.html
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editI just augmented the lede to specify militant, sourced to the BBC and to the Stanford University source already in the article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:41, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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editThese are the current factions that are currently being referred to the media and also the Philippine government respectively.
- Misuari Faction - President Duterte from time-to-time talks about his talks with Misuari in his speeches. Their last meeting was on August 2018 at the Matina Enclaves in Davao City. They also held the 50th Founding Anniversary at Crocodile Park, Davao City. Attendees as far as Palawan and Sarangani.
- Sema Faction - Currently led by Yusoph Jikiri, a former Sulu Governor. Also member of the EC15. Sema relinquishes his post and took the post as the leader of the "Bangsamoro People's Congress" within his faction. Hatimil Hassan is also within this faction.
- Alonto Faction - Alonto is the current head of Mindanao Development Authority (MinDA). Marwan_Khan (talk) 06:17, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
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