Talk:Mordechai Vanunu

Further Information Removed from the Article?

Is there any information that has been intentionally deleted by the various Israeli sockpuppets screwing with this article? There seems to be a lack of the sheer outrage over his kidnapping missing from world sources, can anyone provide some here so that I can store them and look for aditional information in relation to it that would flat out prevent the Israeli sockpuppets from tampering with this article to produce a Pro-Israel bias?

Would be great, thanks. 124.148.238.200 (talk) 09:21, 19 May 2010 (UTC) Sutter Cane

"...sockpuppets screwing with this article?"

Even if this is a TALK page, this kind of expression (scr*wing) should not be acceptable in here. 70.45.35.65 (talk) 01:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree. I removed the following text: "following a rise in anti-semitic sentiment in Morocco" as it was not referenced and as far as I know, it was Israel and Israeli agents doing their damndest best to get Moroccan Jews to move to Israel. The King, as far as I know, did not want them to move. Also, there are still Jews living in Morocco today. Weird term antisemitism, lots of creative usage nowadays. Huasquero. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huasquero (talk • contribs) 19:58, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Italian Reaction?

There is nothing in the article about any Italian reaction to his kidnap. I'm curious. Were they furious? Make a token protest? Politely ignore it? Epeeist smudge (talk) 07:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Second. I would furthermore be interested in some perspective as to the legality of that kind of kidnapping. SamuelRiv (talk) 08:59, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

This article is riddled with un-cited references and inconspicuously placed derogatory information

I read about this gentlement for the first time today and I'm shocked at the level of very carfully placed negative information included here. Parts of this article are biased and do not meet wikipedia standards. Wikihelper242 (talk) 09:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I removed this block, which is an example:

It is believed that at Dimona, Vanunu became increasingly troubled about the Israeli nuclear weapons programme on which he worked and possible Israeli nuclear strategies in the event of war. When he was laid off from Dimona in 1985, Vanunu left Israel. He arrived in Nepal and considered a conversion to Buddhism, later travelling to Burma and Thailand. In 1986, he travelled to Sydney, Australia. While there, Vanunu lived in a hostel in Kings Cross and worked in odd jobs, first as a hotel dishwasher and later as a taxi driver.

Vanunu began to attend the local church, St. John's, Darlinghurst. There he met Rev Stephen Gray and Rev John McKnight, who worked with the homeless and drug addicts. Vanunu was converted to Christianity by Fr Stephen and was baptized as John Crossman into the Anglican Church of Australia, making him further estranged from his family.

Wikihelper242 (talk) 09:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Also:

It was during his employment there that one of the left-wing groups in which Vanunu held membership protested against Israel's 1981 destruction of Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, which was part of the supposed Iraqi nuclear weapons development programme. The Jerusalem Post stated that Vanunu took active part in these protests, located in the Negev Desert south of Dimona. Most worldwide intelligence agencies estimate that Israel developed nuclear weapons as early as the 1960s, but the country has intentionally maintained a "policy of deliberate ambiguity", neither acknowledging nor denying that it possesses the weapons. - |url=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull%26cid=1082438195598 - |title=??? (Problem with this URL) - |publisher=Jerusalem Post - |date=??? - }} </ref> arguing that this showed that he was motivated by antipathy to Israel's policies in his later actions.

Please comment add your thoughts Wikihelper242 (talk) 09:34, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Those paragraphs were well sourced. Simply removing them becuase you disagree with them are just unacceptable.

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Consequences of his action

In assessing the significance of the actions of a whistleblower, it is surely important to consider the long term consequences of his actions. My impression is that they are negligible, but that may be unfair. Can I encourage someone who has studied the issue to write a new section discussing that, rather than providing what strikes me as an over detailed account of the story of his abduction etc. Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Nationality

Since he is born in Morocco from Moroccan parents he will also have Moroccan nationality. I assume he is registered after his birth in the Moroccan civil registration (albeit in that time a French colony). Otto (talk) 20:52, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

How can you say his ethnicity is Morrocan? Jews were an ethnic minority in morocco, his is of Moroccan Jewish ethnicity/background

No one in his family is of ethnic Morrocan background. Ukrainian Jews aren't Slavic, Yemenite Jews aren't arabs, Moroccan Jews aren't Morrocan (in terms of ethnicity). I feel stupid even explaining this. ברופלובסקי (talk) 21:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

oh right, and Canadian Jews aren't Canadian? You're not so much smarter than everyone else as you imagine.144.35.45.46 (talk) 03:17, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

The poster mentioned nationality, not ethnicity or race. He is a Moroccan by birth then.

Zezen (talk) 16:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

That depends on Moroccan nationality law. Some states only grant citizen exclusively through jus sanguinis. When I have time I'll check Morocco. Robert Brockway (talk) 06:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

You need to indicate that mordichai is a traitor spy in israel

MORDICHAI VANUNU WAS CONVICTED OF BEING a spy and sentenced for 18 years and someone who have been charged for spying is a traitor to his country if you don't mention it in the opening article you should also not mention that pollard is a traitor spy why do you have double standard this is hypocrisy

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International intelligence agencies

I don't believe that it is correct that "Most worldwide intelligence agencies estimate that Israel developed nuclear weapons as early as the 1960s". Such a extreme claim needs reliable sources.Royalcourtier (talk) 09:46, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

VERY OUTDATED

this page hasn't been updated usefulley with new information regarding release conditions and his life since 2016. Can someone please fix. Thanks IsraeliIdan (talk) 18:23, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Conspiracy Theory section removed

I removed the Conspiracy Theory section as it was based on a tertiary source (WP:TERTIARY). It's entirely based on a Jerusalem Post article which is itself based entirely on an article published in a London-based Arabic newspaper (no longer published) which is itself based on an interview they claim they had with Vannunu. This kind of fourth-hand attribution would not be acceptable for a normal Wikipedia article, let alone a Biography of a Living person.Steve3742 (talk) 00:30, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

timeline

the article reads:

However, in May 2010, Vanunu was arrested again and sentenced to three months in jail on a charge that he had met foreigners, in violation of conditions of his 2004 release from jail. In response, Amnesty International issued a press release on July 2007, stating that "The organisation considers Mordechai Vanunu to be a prisoner of conscience and calls for his immediate and unconditional release."[7]

how can someone do something in 2007 in response to something that happened in 2010? Snarevox (talk) 11:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Under the usual laws of physics that is not possible. The Amnesty statement relates to the earlier sentence "In 2007, Vanunu was sentenced to six months in prison for violating terms of his parole". The sentence beginning "However, in May 2010, Vanunu was arrested again ... " should be moved further down the paragraph. Amnesty appears to have made a separate statement regarding the May 2010 arrest, which may be where the confusion originates. This 2010 statement is mentioned in the body - "Eleven days earlier, Amnesty International had released a press release following the announcement of this sentence: "If Mordechai Vanunu is imprisoned again, Amnesty International will declare him to be a prisoner of conscience and call for his immediate and unconditional release." ". Burrobert (talk) 12:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Legal name

Various sources including Wired maintain that he legally changed his name to John Crossman. The article name should reflect this. Robert Brockway (talk) 06:30, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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