Talk:Mona Morales-Schildt

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Cl3phact0 in topic Citations

Additional photographs

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There are quite a few interesting photographs of Morales-Schildt on Commons, as well as here. [NB: There is a similar repository on a Swedish national archive site, though I have misplaced the link and can't seem to find it again.] -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:13, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Citations

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Cl3phact0, is your fact tag requesting a citation for the HKS being a predecessor of the Konstfack? I thought that was one of the few facts that didn't really need an inline reference, as an internet search readily answers the question and the reference doesn't say anything about Morales-Schildt. For example there is a six word Nationalencyklopedin article here that just says that the HKS was a predecessor of the Konstfack.

In general, WP:VER requires inline citations and that editors should ensure that all article content is verifiable (WP:BURDEN), so I think that a new article shouldn't contain information you can't verify. Also WP:GENREF says that General reference sections are most likely to be found in underdeveloped articles ... They are frequently reworked by later editors into inline citations. I couldn't find a MOS section advising either general or inline citations. I have now added some inline citations, is there still any unverifiable information? The sv Wikipedia author might be able to help. TSventon (talk) 17:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

@TSventon: No, no, not at all! I was finalising my (relatively minor) syntax/flow edits using the wikitext editor and saw that the fact tag was there already – so I left it in place. I simply thought someone had a good reason for adding it (or I may have done so at some earlier stage of drafting, though it seems rather unnecessary now). Please remove it if you wish, or I will gladly do so. Apologies if I caused any confusion.
Re: Morales-Schildt's education, everything I wrote in the initial draft came from a reference I read (and should have included), though I would need to go back and find the exact passage to confirm these details.
Also, thank you for adding to and improving the article! Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Cl3phact0, what sources did you find about collaborating with Venini and Ventana being inspired by him? TSventon (talk) 10:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
The machine translation of the wp:sv article (upon which the starting draft was based) reads: "The Ventana series began in 1959 and was inspired by the Venetian glass artist Paolo Venini (1896–1959), for whom Mona Morales-Schildt had practiced." I cleaned this up a bit, but didn't feel the need to question it too deeply as the biography on the American Swedish Institute site reads: "She also had studied under Paolo Venini of Murano fame before joining Kosta." [NB: I didn't use this site as a reference, but rather included it in "External links" section as the reference cited (on their site) is a deadlink.] -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have expanded the mention of Venini based on an article in Scandinavian Retro. I have removed collaborating with Venini for the moment as it isn't in that reference. From looking at snippets of Google books it seems that M-S and Venini became friends and she visited him several times in her summer breaks to study his work, which probably explains the wording in the sv Wikipedia article and the the American Swedish Institute site. There is obviously a risk that information from sources you can't access or don't trust is wrong or misinterpreted, but fortunately the information in this sv article does seem to be verifiable. TSventon (talk) 15:08, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Excellent! Thank you for taking the time to improve the article. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:36, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply