Talk:Molecular models of DNA

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references

• List of nucleic acid simulation software
• List of RNA structure prediction software--P99am (talk) 17:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Notes vs. References

Why are there notes AND references? If the references are used in the article, they should be in-line cited. If not, this section should be removed unless EACH one contributes significantly to the article or topic. -75.52.164.178 (talk) 20:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Response

Totally disagree with the above opinion: it may appear rational but it is not. Both Notes and References serve their own purpose that obviously not everyone understands well. Capitalizing words as in the above comment is also a marked infringement of web etiquette--it is like shouting at someone or somebody. Bci2 10:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Overcategorized

I just removed a lot of categories that were not defining for this subject, or even completely unrelated (such as Category:Computational complexity theory). See WP:Overcategorization. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed galleries

This article was cluttered by a huge number of gratuitous image galleries. I've removed them per WP:NOTLINK, but I've copied them below so that any appropriate images can be migrated back into the article once there is text to go with them. Antony-22 (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I've moved them to /Galleries so as not to clutter the talk page too much. Antony-22 (talk) 04:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

The following images were used only in this article; it makes sense to migrate them to other article where they'd be more useful. Antony-22 (talk) 05:43, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Update: the images have been migrated. Antony-22 (talk) 23:51, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Quote on "Image galleries"

"Hi Bci2. I noticed you added a large number of images in image galleries to Molecular models of DNA. I'm concerned that having so many images is against the image guidelines and makes the article hard to read. I think that it would be best to keep only the most relevant images (and perhaps move some of them to other articles), and have them be inline with the text, as is the standard style, rather than in galleries. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Antony-22 (talk) 20:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Response to the Image galleries comment above

Overall, Antony-22, I agree that the number of figures in the last two galleries can be selected to be smaller. However, the steps in the structure determination and molecular modeling section in Gallery 2 would be very hard to follow in a "choppy" fashion, figure by figure in-line. It also is a useful device for in-class presentation as Power Point slides for teachers and graduate students, etc.

Perhaps some of the figures could be transferred to an in-line mode, especially those that are hard to read by being too small. The in-line mode control codes are a bit hard to handle. Any help with the handling of the in-line would be much appreciated. Thank you for your suggestions. Will gradually work to an improved version or versions, but the entry here would also become too long if only in-line were used, and less logically connected; moreover, this new entry is the result of an (unwise) previous condensation of two different entries in Wikipedia by other contributors, without my consent, either implicit or explicit.Bci2 15:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I think that, being that this is an article about molecular models of DNA, that a gallery of the models themselves at the end of the article would be appropriate given the image gallery guidelines. However, as an encyclopedia Wikipedia is not the right place for images formatted as slide shows; I think that Wikiversity, a sister project of Wikipedia, is a better place for that and I'd encourage you to contribute there. For articles, the guideline is that if there are so many images that there isn't enough text to flow around them, we should either have fewer images or write more text.

In this case, I think it would be best to expand your captions into paragraphs and then select the most relevant images to become inline images, moving actual images of DNA to the end, and removing the rest or moving them to other articles. I really think that the galleries as they currently exist make the article hard to read, and are not in line with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines. I may start this process soon if I have time, and I'd like to hear your comments on the results. Antony-22 (talk) 19:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I've taken a crack at editing it down, let me know what you think. You mentioned that you find the inline images a bit hard to handle; I agree it can be tricky if you have a lot of images. Wikipedia:Extended image syntax and Wikipedia:Picture tutorial are good resources on how to use the image syntax to your advantage, and one interesting trick is to use Template:Multiple image, which places two images side-by-side. Hopefully these will be of use to you. Antony-22 (talk) 06:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)"

Very nice update

Thank you Antony-22 for the improvements made. However a few images that were key are missing from the Gallery-- How can I recover those images from the removed galleries from the talk page of the article? I know it should be possible but I forget how to recover the previous version of the Talk page of that article.Bci2 10:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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