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Latest comment: 12 years ago by TBrandley in topic GA Reassessment

GA Reassessment

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GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):  
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):  
    b (citations to reliable sources):  
    c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):  
    b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  

Overall:
Pass/Fail:  

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Issues

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General

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  • Article is laking a "Plot/Series overview" section

Infobox

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  • As per Template:Infobox television, production location parameter is only for use when outside country of origin. "Leave blank if same as country of origin above". If it is filming in Los Angeles, mention in the "Production" section below
  • Official Website should be Website

Lede

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  • Link comedy series to television comedy
  • Per WP:MOS, ABC should be American Broadcasting Company (ABC)
  • "Lloyd and Levitan are showrunners and executive producers under their Levitan-Lloyd Productions label" yet that isn't mentioned in the "Production" section
  • "Presented in mockumentary style, the fictional characters frequently talk directly into the camera." need to further explain all the characters, faimiles, style, etc. featured in the Cast and characters per WP:LEAD
  • "The series has received positive reviews from critics and received several award nominations" Re-write to: "The series has generally received positive reviews from television critics, and has been nominated for numerous awards
  • "On May 10, 2012, ABC announced that it had renewed Modern Family for a fourth season". shouldn't that be at the end of the second paragraph
  • Whole lead doesn't summarize the full article. It doesn't have any information on the "Cast and characters, etc". Also, it contains unneeded details for the lead. Example: "The series has won the Emmy Award for Outstanding Comedy Series and the Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series twice so far, for Eric Stonestreet and Ty Burrell, as well as the Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series for Julie Bowen". Don't say all that. Just say it has been nominated for numberous awards." All that extra detail should be in the article. Same for various others, too many to list. List key details, not little details that should be in actual article per WP:LEAD

Production

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  • The production section is too small for GA standards. Add "Writing", "Casting", "Filming locations", etc". And, the current sections there also need expanding
  • "As Lloyd and Levitan retold stories about their families, it occurred to them that that could be the basis for a show. They started working on the idea of a family being observed in a mockumentary style show." citation/reference needed for all of that
  • Lloyd and Levitan. Who is that? It is there last name, so make it the full name, then if it is mentioned again then it should be last name
  • They did not pitch it to Fox because of issues Lloyd had with the network over Back to You.)[19] CBS, not ready to use the single-camera style of filming nor ready to make another large commitment, rejected the series (Welcome to The Captain and Worst Week were single-camera sitcoms that recently aired on CBS but both lasted one season). NBC, already having two shows with a mockumentary format — The Office and Parks and Recreation — decided against accepting the show before the success of the other two series decreased. ABC accepted the series and picked it up for a full season. Firstly, all of that is original research, secondly, rather than all that unneeded detail, add basic info about the conception, and write: "Lloyd and Levitan pitched the show to various network, and ABC accepted the series, and picked it up for a full season.
  • You say that its filming in LA above. Mention that in the article, and expand upon it
  • ABC should be linked in the "Conception"
  • Per the above, ABC should be unlinked in the "Pickup" section
  • 2009–2010 should be 2009–10 per WP:YEAR. Also, link that to 2009–10 United States network television schedule
  • Most of pickup should be in a new "Distribution" section
  • "Crew" → "Production team"
  • "Lloyd and Levitan previously worked on Frasier, Wings, and Just Shoot Me" is way off topic
  • "The series was also picked up for syndication by USA during the first season for 1.5 million dollars and to 10 Fox affiliates during the second season" re-write to: "The series was also picked up for syndication during the first season for 1.5 million dollars and to 10 Fox affiliates during the second season in the United States".
  • Unlink USA per WP:OVERLINK
  • Unlink United Kingdom per WP:OVERLINK
  • "The series airs in the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland on Sky1" remove that. It is already in "International distribution"
  • Various others too many to list

Cast and characters

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  • This should just be about the explaining the characters. The "show revolves around three families that are interrelated through Jay Pritchett and his children, Claire Dunphy and Mitchell Pritchett. Jay Pritchett (Ed O'Neill), the patriarch, is married to a much younger woman, Gloria (Sofía Vergara), a passionate" Should be added to a new "Series overview/Plot" section, also expanding upon


Episodes

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  • Most is above

Reception

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  • Various too many to list all of them
  • 18-49 rating should be 18–49 rating per WP:DASH. Needs to be a dash
  • Glee is already linked above and shouldn't be here
  • 2009–2010 should be 2009–10
  • 2010–2011 should be 2010–11
  • 2011–2012 should be 2011–12
  • International distribution has the main problems. Firstly, there are no references, second it should be written in words like The Office (U.S. TV series).
  • FOX8 should be Fox8 per WP:TRADEMARK
  • FOX should be Fox per WP:TRADEMARK
  • "[[Cielo (TV channel)|Cielo], Fox (Sky)]" linking problems
  • Unlink all countries in the "International distribution" section per WP:OVERLINK
  • No premiere date for various

References

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  • So many formatting problems. Example: "Goldderby.latimes.com should be Los Angeles Times, "Tvbythenumbers.com should be TV by the Numbers"
  • Various are missing publishers. Example: "TV by the Numbers's publisher should be Zap2it
  • Various overlinking
  • Ref. 35, 68, 69: is not a good source
  • So many problems with refs. way too many too list
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  • Official website. It should be noted that it is at ABC.com

Overall, the article needs so many improvements. I'm sorry, be I'm delisting the article. TBrandley 03:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)Reply