Talk:Miray Cin

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:32, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that Miray Cin played for the Germany women's national youth football teams of U15, U16 and U17 before she became a member of the Turkey women's national football team? Source: [1], [2] (in Turkish)

• Reviewed: Scott Isphording

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC).

• This is my assessment. First for the article itself:
  • Newness: ✓ Pass; created from scratched on October 28
  • Length: ✗ Fail; excluding the lead, the prose section consists of less than 1,500 characters, and this already includes characters for footnotes such as "[#]".
  • Within policy: ✓ Pass; neutral, cites sources with inline citations, Earwig's Copyvio Detector says it's ok. I'm a bit concerned that some appearances are cited to box scores and not actual match reports.
• For the hook:
  • Format: ✓ Pass
  • Content: ✓ Pass; yet another athlete who played for a country in the youth ranks but transferred to another country in the senior level, but I suppose that's still not usual enough for it to be not "not interesting".
• Other:
  • QPQ:  Done
  • Picture: Not applicable
• Overall": Only length is keeping this from the main page. Are you able to source a direct quote from her? That can length the article good enough for it to pass. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:33, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for your review. The prose portion of the article is 1,629 characters long acoording to "DYK check" tool exceeding the minimum legth of 1,500 stated in the "Article 2" criteria. Please recheck. CeeGee 10:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

• For articles that have a lead, I personally do not include WP:LEAD in character counts, as leads are just a summary of the rest of the prose. I know this is not the one recommended by the "rules," but this is something I do myself when doing QPQs. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:08, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

• Does this mean that your personal criteria is superior to to the DYK rules? CeeGee 09:26, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

• You are free to seek other people who'd review otherwise. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:19, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
• I've actually used this standard on my other reviews, and people actually complied. Maybe because it made the article better? I dunno. The article as it stands right now is at its barest possible minimum outside of a stub. Character counts on a lead, which is a summary of the rest of article, doesn't add anything of substance to the actual article. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

• Taking it from here, all the characters of prose including the lead total 1,810 characters. Not including the lead, it is still above 1,500 characters, although by only 58. As per Howard the Duck, this meets all other requirements. Will review the hook later. Heythereimaguy (talk) 20:28, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

• The article doesn't seem to mention any U15 team Nevermind, all I had to do was scroll.

Okay then, this seems good to go. The hook is cited in the article (German and Turkish sources AGF) and short enough, but I will hyperlink U15, U16, and U17 to help readers understand the hook better. @CeeGee: congratulations, this passes! Heythereimaguy (talk) 01:12, 11 November 2021 (UTC)