Talk:Merrill Moses

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Hi. Thanks for your fixes. I think the program results have to be checked. For example, you changed "an American" - which is the normal construct - to "an United States". That is both not the norm for a first sentence (American is normal), and "an United .." is clearly wrong. The program also broke sentences in two, but then kept refs with the second sentence, leaving the first looking as though it had not refs. Stuff like that should also be fixed - it was far better before. Thanks.--2604:2000:E010:1100:DCF8:AC01:8246:AAB4 (talk) 07:41, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

• @2604:2000:E010:1100:DCF8:AC01:8246:AAB4: This article was a mess, and still needs work. I made a number of changes when I cleaned up the references. First, I stripped out a number of the duplicate references. I also stripped the references out of the lede. I also standardized all the references. As for the American vs United States, I checked the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style and saw nothing on this. If there are grammatical errors, please feel free to fix them. --evrik ^(talk) 16:27, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your improvements.

As to American vs United States - your examples of convention are literally all over the place. Just look at featured articles. Here is one .. surely, you have seen this again and again.

As to changing to incorrect English "an United States .." from what was correct, that is in the first place not an error you should introduce into the article. It was not incorrect in the first place. You made it incorrect. If you are using a script, you have the responsibility of reviewing errors introduced by the script, and fixing them. You can't just run it, and create and leave errors - they are your responsiblity.

The same holds for your stripping refs from sentences they support. That opens up the possibility that someone will later say a ref is missing, and remove the sentence. That would be bad.

Thanks. --2604:2000:E010:1100:487D:7B23:27BE:331A (talk) 19:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

The article does not need citations in the lead. All the information in the lead is found in the rest of the article, where it is cited. The references were messy and duplicative. As for the United States versus American, if you want to make changes please do. --evrik ^(talk) 20:43, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

None of my concerns relate to footnotes in the lede. Please re-read what I wrote.

My concerns are detailed above. And I am not suggesting that you should make those mistakes in the article that I have pointed out, and then require others to fix your mistakes.

I think it is better for you to not make the mistakes I pointed out in the first place.

And if you make them (grammar, stripping out references from sentences, United States vs. American, etc.), to fix them yourself.

Does that not seem fair? 2604:2000:E010:1100:487D:7B23:27BE:331A (talk) 21:49, 25 August 2020 (UTC)