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editThis is perhaps a bit too chatty and needs work, but I think it's valid as an article or I think it's just as valid as most anything in Category:Television characters by series. I mean we have Category:Histeria! characters, which is a show that only lasted two years and was doesn't even have its own category. --T. Anthony 07:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- I worked on it some, possibly making it too formal, so I hope the creator of it's not mad. --T. Anthony 07:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nice work, but was she really drinking when she slept with O'Malley? I thought it was after bomb guy, etc so she was just frazzled.--T. Anthony 15:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- She slept with George at the end of "Yesterday" (which was the episode after the bomb ordeal). She had gone to see her father for the first time in 20+ years, it didn't go well, so she went to Joe's and wound up drinking with Mark Sloan before going home, where George and his incredibly bad timing were waiting. DarkandTwisty29 21:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Referenced Rampage
editYou may see in other Grey's Anatomy's character pages that I had put this tag:
I want to improve these articles so I'm asking for those willing to help to find sources to back up these information. --Omghgomg 12:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Is a "Quotes" section necessary?
editPersonally, I feel that a "Quotes" section clutters the page and takes away from it stylistically. There is an excellent, extensive collection of quotes from Grey's Anatomy, including those from this character, in Wikiquotes, and it seems like overkill here--just like the ridiculously long list of "Mc"-phrases on the main Grey's Anatomy page. I think that adding a "Quotes" section to individual character pages is not necessary, and counteracts the encyclopedic style we're supposed to strive for with these articles. Where do we draw the line with quotes? What constitutes a defining quote from a character? A funny one-liner? A long "aria" explaining personality, past, motives? It's a very sticky area, and I think if we keep this "Quotes" section, it's going to open the door for any Jack or Jill to add every single remotely interesting line (and not always quoted properly or spelled correctly) ever uttered on the show, and this page will lose the clean, relatively organized and concise feel that it is.
This is especially true in the case of Meredith Grey, whose voice-overs begin and end most episodes, and are (in my opinion) among the most quotable and quoted words from the show, without even mentioning her one-liners and speeches ("pick me", "She's got my McLife", etc). If this quote section stays, it threatens to grow longer than the biographical section and make this page look horrible.
I spent a lot of time working on this page and the one for Derek Shepherd, so I understand the sentimental value attached to one's work, which is why I'm opening this discussion. When I worked on these two pages, they were very disjointed and offered very little information or stylistic improvement from the shorter biographies on the Grey's Anatomy character page. I changed all that, spent hours of my own time rewatching episodes for factual accuracy and organizing the information into a concise biography that while offering more than the blurbs on the character page, wasn't bogged down with poor grammar, syntax, or superfluous information, especially including quotes. They've come a long way and I'd hate to see them become cluttered and unorganized again. There is a place for Grey's Anatomy quotes--on Wikiquotes, and I propose that they stay there rather than bog down the character pages. Any opinions on this? --DarkandTwisty29 21:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I very much agree a quotes section clutters the page but maybe one or two quotes could be added to the top description just to be through Beener.0 (talk) 01:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
The Problem with dividing history by "seasons"
editGrey's Anatomy's seasons differ among countries. In the U.S., the first season includes the first nine episodes, ending with "Who's Zoomin' Who", but other countries showed the "complete" first season as it was originally intended to be shown, ending with "Bring the Pain". Dividing character history by "seasons" doesn't take into account the fact that the events in question happened in different seasons dependent on country. --DarkandTwisty29 19:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
NOT Medically Dead
editI noticed someone else started to post this and removed it--I think it warrants a place for the time being.
Meredith is not legally or medically dead. She will not be so until another doctor "calls it" and announces a time of death. A dead character (Denny) telling her she's dead in what may be "heaven", a vision, a subconscious dream, or a near death experience, among numerous other possibilities, does not make her dead. All that is known is that she is hypothermic and asystolic, and I have edited the page to reflect that. Until and unless she is medically declared dead, the page should not say she is. --DarkandTwisty29 06:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Removing "Dr." from title sentence:
editI have changed the title sentence from "Dr. Meredith Grey is..." to "Meredith Grey is..." based on the Wikipedia style manual for biographies, which dictates that academic or professional titles should not precede the individual's name in the article. I also checked with the Wikipedia articles on several real-life physicians to verify that this was the convention in use. The body of the article and the infobox provide sufficient evidence of Meredith's possession of a M.D. degree. --DarkandTwisty29 18:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Who lives in Meredith's house:
editI've had to edit this several times over the past few days, and different individuals keep changing it back. In assuming good faith, I will guess that these are individuals who have not yet been able to watch the full third season. However, as of episode 3x18, "Scars and Souvenirs", which has aired in the United States and Canada, Alex Karev is a resident of Meredith Grey's home. George had moved out prior to episode 3x15 "Walk on Water", leaving his room vacant as he moved into the Archfield Hotel with his new wife, Callie Torres. Alex moved in and took residence of the room that George once lived in. The rent paying housemates are Alex and Izzie, not Izzie and George. --DarkandTwisty29 22:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
What is included as a "relationship" in the infobox?
editI just removed "George O'Malley (sexual encounter)" from the relationship section of the infobox. A one-night stand hardly counts as a significant "relationship", in my opinion. Certainly the encounter with George was a significant incident, especially in the nature and course of their friendship, but it happened once, and was pretty much immediately recognized as a mistake on both ends--not a romantic relationship or dating situation, as Finn and Derek are. Because the encounter itself was significant, it is included in the character history of the article, but I don't think it warrants inclusion as an infobox "relationship". If the category were called "Significant Physical/Sexual Encounters", it might be a different story, but the bottom line, the category is "Relationships", which George wasn't.
Furthermore, even though George is a significant ONS and a main character of the show--he was just a one night stand. Meredith has had a lot of them, but adding "Steve Murphy" (priapism guy) or "Hairy Back Guy" or "Tattoo Man" or "Guy from Joe's at Thanksgiving" or whoever else it was shown/implied Meredith slept with is just...overkill. If one ONS is included in the infobox, it sets precedent for all the rest, and in the grand scheme of things, those flings aren't important enough to compromise the concise intentions for the infobox.
All just my opinion of course, feel free to discuss or disagree with me. --DarkandTwisty29 04:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Removal of trivia section
editI've removed the remaining "trivia" items in keeping with WP:TRIVIA. I've been working on the section for several weeks and have integrated what I could, but essentially, the remaining items are "especially tangential or irrelevant, and may not warrant inclusion at all." (From WP:TRIVIA). In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter what the license plate number of Meredith's car is, or whether she likes Chinese food (and I'm the only who actually put that there, so I'm deleting my own content along with others'). Sure, they're fun tidbits to know, but they're not encyclopedic so it's best to remove them. --DarkandTwisty29 18:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
What about her age?
editOn the page we currently have "late 20s-early 30s" for Meredith's age. But I think she must be at least in her 30s if we do some calculation. Her father Thatcher left when Meredith was five years old, so his daughter Lexie with his second wife must be AT LEAST five years younger than Meredith. Lexie is now a surgical intern, which means she has already completed four years of undergrad and four years of med school. Under normal circumstances with normal school ages, Lexie should be at least 26. If so, that puts Meredith at an age of AT LEAST 31. So how about "early 30s" for her age? --Chopsticks 07:37, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- The problem with Meredith's age basically amounts to a problem with continuity on the writer's part. Your calculations are definitely correct, but I could use her age when Thatcher left (5) and Richard's statement to Ellis in "Bring the Pain" ("We had this discussion twenty-one years ago"--regarding leaving their spouses for each other) to make an equally valid argument that Meredith is 26. (On top of that, it's been said several times that Meredith/Alex are older than the others, making Meredith at least 28, in which case I could speculate that Lexie, being super-smart as she's been described, could have graduated high school a year early (age 16), taken summer courses/AP and finished undergrad in 3 years (age 19), and then gone to 4 years of med school, making her 23 and the requisite 5 years younger than Meredith. That does, of course, go against your condition of "normal" circumstances.)
- Yes, it doesn't make sense with Lexie suddenly being added to the cast, but because there have been conflicting indicators, and equally valid methods of calculating Meredith's age based on clues or statements w/in the show, I personally feel that offering a range that encompasses all possibilities is the best route. We may be given a definitive answer eventually--Addison's page read "late thirties-early forties" until we were given her age as 39. Cristina's age was specifically revealed as 28 on the OR board during her ectopic pregnancy. Meredith's age has never been explicitly revealed, and due to sloppy, contradictory writing and lack of timeline continuity, it's impossible to try to figure it out precisely based on fan calculations (although, again, yours are correct--as are mine). It's just my opinion, of course, but the late 20s-early 30s range best represents all possibilities. --74.244.66.152 01:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- Lexie tells Mark that she's 24 in Season Five, if that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.47.42.32 (talk) 13:18, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Article name
editGiven that the character's name isn't Meredith Grey-Shepherd, locating the article at Meredith Grey-Shepherd is ridiculous. There are no sources from the show itself, the production team, the creator or the writers to indicate the character will no longer be known as Meredith Grey. Even if her name is changed, WP:COMMONNAME will apply, meaning the article should still stay at Meredith Grey, with a redirect from Meredith Grey-Shepherd if that's what she changes her name to. Leaving the article at this title is nonsensical, with no factual grounding in the real world. Frickative 23:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- Once we've got consensus, I'll be happy to lift the move protection: my interest here is to stop the move warring. If there's no substantial disagreement, then I see no reason not to lift the protection. - Philippe 23:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- Absolutely, my comment was probably a bit hyperbolic, but I do appreciate the need to ascertain consensus, so thank you for stepping in. Frickative 00:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Frickative, the titular character's name is Grey; the show itself is not going to change to Grey-Sheperd's Anatomy. There has been no evidence from Shonda Rhimes, the writing staff, or any episodes to date that show precedence of such change, and even if it does, Meredith Grey has been Meredith Grey for 100+ episodes: the character is recognized as what is currently established. DaBrain930 06:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- OK, we've been up almost 24 hours with this.... if I see no significant objection, I'll move the page later tonight. (I'll also put a page move protection on it there too.) Other ideas are welcomed and solicited. - Philippe 19:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- It's been moved. :-) - Philippe 21:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- OK, we've been up almost 24 hours with this.... if I see no significant objection, I'll move the page later tonight. (I'll also put a page move protection on it there too.) Other ideas are welcomed and solicited. - Philippe 19:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Marriage
editis Meredith married to Derick legally? I've heard no mention in the show of them actually being able to sign their marriage certificate in front of the appropriate witnesses. I also am not sure their relationship meets the common law marriage criteria yet. so the references to her being married should be changed to her living with her fiance. unless there is proof of her actually being married not in the process. Tydoni (talk) 05:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
- Meredith, legally, is not married to Derek. The post-it did not constitute a legally-binding arrangement which would recognize the two as holding married status. Furthermore, although the state of Washington does recognize common-law marriages, the state has never permitted its establishment within its borders. Derek and Meredith would have had to contract a common-law marriage in the few states that allow it for Washington to recognized them as a married couple. And since they drew up the "post-it marriage" in SGH, which is in Washington, they are not recognized as common-law married. For all intents and purposes, the state of Washington recognizes Derek and Meredith as single.Ace 20:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
The show seems to conciser them married with the Dr. and Mrs. Derick Shepard thing. What are the common law rules for California? I know that sometimes writers will write a show that's set in say, Washington with a Californian legal system not understanding that just because something works one way in California does not mean it works the same way in other states. Tydoni (talk) 18:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Alzheimer's Disease
editThe section about Season 7 of the series where Meredith Grey might have Alzheimer's Disease says that the condition is a genetic disease when it is not since most of the case is sporadic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BabycakesBurger (talk • contribs) 05:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
bomb episode
editShouldn't it be mentioned she nearly died in the episode "It's the End of the World" when she put her hand inside a man's belly where there was a piece of unexploded ammunition... ? --Sofffie7 (talk) 21:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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That's all. Good work. On hold :) TBrandley 16:48, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Everything's Done. Thanks for review, TRLIJC19 (talk) 19:00, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Category
edithow come there are 2 categories mentioning where she's from? she's either from massachusetts or washington, not both but i can't remember where she was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.134.6.139 (talk) 14:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well she lives in Washington, but she was born in Massachusetts. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
In-Universe and other concerns
editWe should remember that, with an article like this, the subject never existed, nor did anyone the character met. What Meredith Grey "did" is irrelevant because she didn't do anything. Much of this article is written as if Grey actually lived; it should be trimmed to reflect in-universe.Catherinejarvis (talk) 22:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- This is a character's article and I believe it has been developed as such. There are actually real-universe info as how the actress was cast, the showrunner's thoughts, the reception of the character and the portrayer so could you precisely point out the problems? As for the plot tag, the length of the storylines' section is OK since we are talking about a character that's been present in a show for 9 seasons. --Sofffie7 (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The article is, in fact, balanced with real world information. Yet the article is still written as if Meredith Grey is a real person. I merely wish to have it edited to show this. A few tweaks would be appropriate here, and, unfortunately, I have a few stalkers now who follow me around Wikipedia and revert anything I do.Catherinejarvis (talk) 18:32, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- If you have concerns about the article, please leave them here because other users have already reverted you twice now, and I would advice to maintain the status quo. This is what talk pages are designed for. TBrandley (what's up) 03:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I did leave concerns on this talk page, and I did maintain the status quo. I didn't change a single word of the article, and praised it (above). I merely suggest that others look at it and make a few tweaks to its style in one paragraph. Perhaps people should count to ten and review the basic idea of "assume good faith."Catherinejarvis (talk) 16:07, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
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