Talk:Meratus white-eye

GA Review

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Nominator: AryKun (talk · contribs) 09:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Starsandwhales (talk · contribs) 02:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article over the next few days/weeks. starsandwhales (talk) 02:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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• In the lead - "It is endemic to the Meratus Mountains of Indonesian Borneo, where it has been recorded from Mount Besar and Mount Karokangen". The phrasing with "from" is awkward, has its presence been recorded (as in documented) on both of these mountains or has it been audio recorded on both of these mountains? Other than this point of confusion the lead looks good.
  • Changed to "been observed on".
• Taxonomy section reads well — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starsandwhales (talk • contribs) 20:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Description - "The Meratus white-eye is a typical Zosterops white-eye with deep olive-green upperparts, more yellow underparts, a yellow stripe across the lores, and a distinctive bicoloured bill" link for lores?
  • Added.
• Description - "The bill is mostly pinkish-horn, with the upper ridge of the maxilla and the tip of the mandible being a darker greyish-horn." link for maxilla?
  • Added.
• Description - "Compared to the Javan white-eye, the only other Bornean white-eye that is uniformly yellow or olive, the Meratus white-eye is darker overall, with a longer bill and tail and thinner, less yellowish line above the lores." This sentence should be restructured to have fewer comma-separated clauses, it's difficult to parse.
  • Split up and reworded.
• Description - "The white-eye's usual call is a high, "buzzy" 'zip'." consistent quotation marks
  • Italicized zip instead.
• Ecology and conservation - "It diet is unknown, but it has it has been seen in mixed-species foraging flocks with other insectivores." -> Its diet is unknown...
  • Fixed.
• Ecology and conservation - " It has a very small range and the authors of the study describing it recommended it be assessed as vulnerable due to its restricted distribution and pressure due to the songbird trade." unclear wording
  • Attempted rewording.

starsandwhales (talk) 22:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Infobox - While not necessary, alt text on the image improves accessibility
  • Added.
• Starsandwhales, see responses above. AryKun (talk) 19:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Article is well written, checking references and copyvio today. starsandwhales (talk) 15:04, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Hi starsandwhales, any update on this? AryKun (talk) 06:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  If you need any help accessing the sources to spotcheck them, I'd be happy to help. The journal articles should have free to access links on Google Scholar (I didn't add them in the article because of possible copyright infringement) and the Helm Dictionary can also be accessed on archive.org. For the Birds of the World cites, I'd be happy to provide quotes of the material citing any claims you want to check. AryKun (talk) 06:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  Hi! Sorry about the radio silence, I still intend to finish this review. I would appreciate quotes for the Birds of the World cites, maybe an excerpt with at least 3 sentences for each of them? starsandwhales (talk) 05:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• I can't give cites for every claim since that would be over fair-use imo, but I'll give excerpts for each cite. The description of the appearance can also be confirmed using refs 2 and 3.
• "Most closely related to Lemon-bellied White-eye...recommended splitting Zosterops flavissimus from mainland Sulawesi populations of Zosterops chloris"
• "The holotype was described (6) as having the eye-ring white, interrupted in front by a thin black loral line, which also runs below the eye-ring. Eaton et al. (1) suggested that the eye-ring is broadest below the eye. Above the loral line, there is a thin streak of olive-yellow...
• "The only other species of white-eye found in the Meratus Mountains, the Hume's White-eye (Zosterops auriventer) is of similar size and structure to the present species, but has brighter green upperparts, a strikingly yellow chin and throat, and a ventral stripe from the undertail coverts to central belly, contrasting with the remainder of the soft gray underparts, lacks a yellow loral line, and has a basically unicolored bill. Hume's White-eye is evidently confined to lower elevations in the Meratus range..."
• "Eaton et al. (1) mentioned that this species mostly sings at daybreak in the early morning"
• "Inhabits the lower and midstory of closed-canopy montane forest above 1,300 m...presumably generally resident and sedentary"
• ...the species forages in the lower and middle stories, probing amongst moss hanging from twigs and petioles, hanging upside-down to probe from below..."
• "...The species’ montane forest habitat is also subject to moderate levels of disturbance by harvesters of forest products...no evidence that Meratus White-eye occurs below 1,300 m, so its habitat is probably still largely intact"
• Starsandwhales. AryKun (talk) 19:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

  Hi, Starsandwhales, if you have time today I'd appreciate if you could complete the source review. Today's the last day for round 4 of the WikiCup and I'm uncomfortably close to being knocked out, so I was hoping I could add this GA. No problem if you're busy, but just wanted to drop a request. Thanks! AryKun (talk) 21:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry about the delay, life got in the way unfortunately. starsandwhales (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

• Sources 1 and 2 look good.
• In Ecology and conservation: "The authors of the study describing it recommended it be assessed as vulnerable due to its restricted distribution and pressure on its population due to the songbird trade". "The" study is referred to without saying which study this is. Maybe change to "The authors describing the species.." or something like that? starsandwhales (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

  Starsandwhales, done. AryKun (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

• Sources 4 and 5 look good. starsandwhales (talk) 19:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Starsandwhales AryKun (talk) 12:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Starsandwhales anything else left to check? AryKun (talk) 06:04, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Starsandwhales AryKun (talk) 11:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Review finish by Fritzmann

AryKun, I will be completing a source review and finishing this GAN since the original reviewer is inactive.

Source Review

• Ref 1: While the species is currently assessed as Least Concern by the IUCN, it would be best practice to say: "was assessed as Least Concern in 2022", when the entry was made. That way the article will not be inaccurate if the classification status changes in the future.
• Ref 2: citation b is supported by the source on page 576
• Ref 4: genus name etymology checks out
• Ref 7: looks like this verifies the Meratus white-eye population's close relationship to the Lemon-bellied white-eye

While I recommend the suggested change for ref 1, it is by no means necessary for this article to be a GA. Since spotchecks revealed no issues at all, I will be promoting this article based on my passed source review and the passed prose review by Starsandwhales. Congrats Ary, and thanks for another great article! Fritzmann (message me) 01:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.