Talk:Melitta Schenk Gräfin von Stauffenberg

shorter than original version

Hello there, I mostly copied the article from the german wikipedia which I considered trustworthy. I did not translate the whole job for I lack the specific vocabulary. Feel free to complete... est!

English pretty good.

Though not perfect.

What is "licensed from" supposed to mean?

Tabletop 10:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

• In that case, it was meant that she was released/discharged from military service. -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       08:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Reference and source tags

There is no source nor references listed. The above list the article as having been copied but it was translated and not with references or the source listed. I will look at this later but I am not a translator. Otr500 (talk) 01:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Flugkapitänin ?

I'm sorry, but at the time (and for the next decades) the title was awarded in its male form (Flugkapitän) and not femalized (Flugkapitänin). The later sounds a bit silly to a german ear even today, but at the time it would have sounded outright absurd. It might even have sounded as an offense to the ears of Melitta as some kind of derogatory (not full capacity) title. Note that I do not intend to open a gender discussion here, but one for historical correctness. Even the german Wikipedia page writes "Flugkapitän". So I suggest this to be corrected. JB. --92.195.126.139 (talk) 12:07, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

nonsense regarding knowledge of the April 20 coup attempt

I have removed the paragraph relating to her brother in law confiding detail of the plot to her and her flying him around Germany — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.175.56.21 (talk) 14:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

New book, "The Women Who Flew for Hitler"

Anybody who is interested in expanding or correcting this article needs to read it: 450 pages of well-researched information of von Stauffenberg and Hanna Reisch and their rivalry. The book has just been released, author is Clare Mulley,and apart from its fascinating information, it is an excellent read.173.62.11.254 (talk) 18:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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Berlin research and Wurzberg raid

GraemeLeggett, can you rephrase this line you added? It appears like two disconnected events are combined into one sentence. Splitting them also is not giving meaning. What has Melitta's activities in Wurzberg got to do with the raid that happened, and with research at Berlin being dispersed? Jay ^(Talk) 15:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

The research facilities was dispersed from Berlin ahead of the Soviet advance, Melitta's activities to Wurzberg where she found that a RAF raid had destroyed her house and its contents.  Jay (Talk) 15:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

As i recall the sense of it was that 1) projects in Berlin were dispersed to various locations. 2) projects that Melitta was involved in were moved to Wurzberg. 3) when she got to Wurzberg she found her home there had been destroyed by an air raid. GraemeLeggett (talk) 17:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

OK, let me rephrase as below. Jay ^(Talk) 17:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

As research facilities in Berlin were dispersed to other locations ahead of the Soviet advance, Melitta's activities were moved to Wurzberg, where she found that a RAF raid had destroyed her house.

military personnell killed in WW-2 ?

Was she ? Not in the sense of the word. Obviously, she never held a military rank. Maybe, her position was regarded as Wehrmachtgefolge. --129.187.244.19 (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Well she was awarded the military honours the Iron Cross Second Class and the Gold Front Flying Clasp for Bombers. And one of the citations in the article is named Amazons to Fighter Pilots - A Biographical Dictionary of Military Women (Volume 2). Jay ^(Talk) 12:16, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

you missed the point. Similar case as Hanna Reitsch, who also wasn't a female soldier. "Military decorations" notwithstanding. --213.172.123.242 (talk) 18:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Given that there is no difference between “dive bombers” and “ dive bomber aircraft”, how can it be claimed that she flew “over 2,500 test flights in dive bombers” and that she performed “over 1,500 test flights in dive bombers.” Either she flew over 1,500 or 2,500 test flights in dive bombers, i.e. in dive bomber aircraft. Which is it?

The German-language version has “Militärfliegerabzeichen in Gold mit Brillanten und Rubinen” This version has “Gold Front Flying Clasp for Bombers with diamonds” – Is it the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epirenton (talk • contribs) 16:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC)