Talk:Mayhem (crime)

Pronunciation

• It's pronounced "maim". I know no-one has asked yet, but someone will eventually. --Legis (talk - contributions) 16:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
• Reverted pending discussion: I have heard "mayhem" pronounced plenty of times, always as "may-hem" as two syllables, at least here in Britain. Anthony Appleyard 08:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It was definitely still pronounced "Maim" when I read medical ethics and the law at University (in Britain) in 1995. Can't find a reliable source as most legal dictionaries in the UK don't provide guidance to pronunciation. --Legis (talk - contribs) 21:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• That may be an old pronunciation that lawyers hang on to, but most people spelling-pronounce it as "may-hem", same as most people use "mayhem" to mean "havoc and disorder". Anthony Appleyard 21:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
• You're both right! Black's Law Dictionary, 8th ed., has the noun pronounced as "may-hem," but the verb form of the word pronounced, and spelled, as "maim." Of course the British usage may be different- Black's is an American legal authority. ABrougham (talk) 01:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the pronunciation corresponds directly to the spelling. "Mayhem" = /mej(h)em/, "maim" = /mejm/. But the verb 'mayhem' and the noun 'maim' are listed as archaic, obsolete, or rare; so in common use, "mayhem" is a noun pronounced /mej(h)em/ and "maim" is a verb pronounced /mejm/. Do we have any reliable sources for anything else? --Macrakis (talk) 20:35, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is this article should not be moved. Dpmuk (talk) 21:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

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Mayhem (crime) → Mayhem — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC) The common noun—even misunderstood—is the primary meaning of the word. Although my own experience is no evidence of common usage, I have never heard of any of the other options on the disambiguation page Mayhem and they are all proper nouns likely only to be used in limited contexts. (I have seen the Law & Order episode, although I never knew its name.) Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC I think that when "recentism and educational value are taken into account", and considering that this topic is a "vital article", it is the primary topic. Not one of the other topics on the DAB page is vital, most are very recent elements of pop-culture, and the educational value of a legal topic which is widely misunderstood is superior to that of every other topic on the DAB page. Srnec (talk) 18:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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• Oppose this is a specific crime article, not about the common noun. 64.229.101.183 (talk) 23:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose. To most people nowadays, "mayhem" primarily means "havoc and disorder". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

  Is that sense of "mayhem" encyclopedic? The common use the term is based on a misunderstanding of a use of this term. Why can it not be dealt with in this article? Srnec (talk) 00:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. The crime is quite separate and distinct from the common usage of the word. Unless the article on the common usage word was to go (as suggested by Srnec) this article should probably stay where it is. --Legis (talk - contribs) 01:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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Abolition in England and Wales

The article states that "in 1998 the Home Office proposed to abolish it, in the course of codifying the law relating to offences against the person." Was this actually done? If so, can we have chapter and verse from the statute book? If it wasn't abolished, why not? Is there anything from parliamentary debates of the time, or from commentators in the legal profession weighing in? When was the last prosecution for mayhem in England and Wales, and does it (or did it) exist in jurisdictions which derive their legal systems in part from English law, e.g. Australia, Canada, New Zealand. Beorhtwulf (talk) 19:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Could you look into this and edit the article? Thanks, --Macrakis (talk) 20:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't have time for that! I came here as a reader of the encyclopaedia making an enquiry and a suggestion, should any editor who might feel so inclined want to add some useful information to the article. Sorry to disappoint if you were looking for someone to pitch in! Beorhtwulf (talk) 00:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

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