Talk:Marriage Story (1992 film)

Requested move 19 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:52, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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Marriage Story (1992 film) → ? – Judging it by the sources, the RM at Marriage Story and the page history, "Marriage Story" is an inaccurate title. "Marriage Story" comes from the Variety source (now removed) but it is most likely to be The Marriage Life. Per NCF if there is no recognizable name, it should be Kyeolhon iyagi/Gyeolhon-i-yagi (whichever is the correct romanization). © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 22:22, 19 January 2020 (UTC) —Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

• Move to The Marriage Life English title used by Korean Film Council, Korean Film Archive, and Korean Movie Database. There is no such thing as "correct romanization", even with the same system (RR) it can be written as Gyeolhon-i-yagi, Gyeolhon iyagi, Gyeol-hon-i-ya-gi, and a myriad of other ways. Sinobball (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
• I'm not sure I can agree with the characterization of the current title as "inaccurate", since it is a proper direct translation of the Korean title. However, if the current title is not in use in English, then it shouldn't be the title. Dekimasuよ! 14:41, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose false claim that Marriage Story is an inaccurate title. Variety here in December 1993 writes "Marriage Story". Quoting myself from the previous RM discussion shows Marriage Story amply used in reliable sources: "One can see a snippet from The Changing Face of Korean Cinema: 1960 to 2015 here and from New Korean Cinema: Breaking the Waves here and from New Korean Cinema here and numerous results at Google Scholar here." The title is appropriate per naming conventions as following these reliable sources. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 16:14, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Erik: The article never cites those sources (which you can do but somewhow you ain't doing it)—yet expect them to be evidence inside the article and I'm to be blamed(?). Anyway, if I replace the Scholar link with "The Marriage Life" Korea 1992 it still generating results about the film. Also, I explicity said "Per NCF if there is no recognizable name, it should be [the Korean name]" because this film does have multiple names. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 17:55, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm not obligated to improve an article to make such a case. I'm saying in the wider world, Marriage Story is commonly used as the title in English-language reliable sources. Reviewing the Google Scholar results with the revised query, I only see one result that actually refers to the film. The original query is much more numerous in search results pertaining to the film. "The Marriage Life" definitely does not come close to offsetting "Marriage Story" in sources. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 04:58, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Then we are not obligated to believe those imgur sources are reliable or even exist, as they completely lack the most basic cite web parameters, including, but not limited to author, publisher and date. If anything I see a random Word essay by a college student attempting to be cited as a source. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 22:14, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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